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jeccross 09-06-2007 11:58 AM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
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what? its obvious +EV according to pokerstove results and ive given him tightest pushing range (if you consider villain is reg which seems to be according to his stats/pro nickname). i cant see any reg not pushing AK there in BB

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No you haven't, tightest pushing range is KK+. Some people fold AK here, only a complete donk pushes anything other than AK+ given the action (QQ makes hardly ny difference regardless and is unlikely). Pokerstove shows you have a 2% edge with all the assumptions on the optimistic side so if you want to gamble a whole stack on at best a 2% edge then go ahead.

I know AK isn't in CR advised starting hnds for a start.

Jay Riall 09-06-2007 11:58 AM

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i cant see any reg not pushing AK there in BB

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I fold there if Imrahil is nitty/doesn't squeeze very often.

jeccross 09-06-2007 12:00 PM

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i cant see any reg not pushing AK there in BB

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I fold there if Imrahil is nitty/doesn't squeeze very often.

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Thankyou.

Jay Riall 09-06-2007 12:01 PM

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i cant see any reg not pushing AK there in BB

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I fold there if Imrahil is nitty/doesn't squeeze very often.

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Thankyou.

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You don't kniw if Imrahil is nitty or not though....

Imrahil 09-06-2007 12:02 PM

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Guys, villain has never played with me before. This was his first hand at the table. I've never seen him at 200nl. I think he was playing 600nl HU and he's played 400nl and 10/20 limit before. He has no clue how I play as far as I know.

jeccross 09-06-2007 12:03 PM

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i cant see any reg not pushing AK there in BB

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I fold there if Imrahil is nitty/doesn't squeeze very often.

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Thankyou.

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You don't kniw if Imrahil is nitty or not though....

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True but best case scenario is he isn't, in which case you have a tiny edge. Worst case scenario is he isn't and you're way behind. Why put chips in under those circumstances.

You also don't have to be nitty to fold AK there.

Jay Riall 09-06-2007 12:03 PM

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Guys, villain has never played with me before. This was his first hand at the table. I've never seen him at 200nl. I think he was playing 600nl HU and he's played 400nl and 10/20 limit before. He has no clue how I play as far as I know.

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I'm putting him down for shoving AK like 99% of the time then.

HoldEmNewby 09-06-2007 01:05 PM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
easy fold.

Noam Chomsky 09-06-2007 01:10 PM

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Stove results are unweighted. I never do this with AK. It's also a very different situation to original preflop raiser pushing, this is never a bluff.

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Have you played 200nl lately? What makes you think shoving AK here is a bluff?

orange 09-06-2007 01:13 PM

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calls


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