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NL__Fool 09-05-2007 11:03 PM

Re: 100nl: marginal spot in RR pot
 
I remember this hand, I'm the villain here. What did you put me on?

Spechel EDD 09-05-2007 11:08 PM

Re: 100nl: marginal spot in RR pot
 
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I remember this hand, I'm the villain here. What did you put me on?

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kq/qj/aa/kk bluff maybe 10% of the time

NL__Fool 09-05-2007 11:13 PM

Re: 100nl: marginal spot in RR pot
 
I held JJ

barryc83 09-05-2007 11:27 PM

Re: 100nl: marginal spot in RR pot
 
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I remember this hand, I'm the villain here. What did you put me on?

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Like I said, I hadnt played much with you but you seemed like a good player (ie i saw you value bet that donk on 2 streets with bottom pair). I was running nitty at that table and hadnt 3bet you 1 time in like an hour so theres just no way you would think I was doing it light. Some people who seem decent call any 3bet IP though idk. When you shoved, the only hand I have decent equity against is KK. AA-TT is what I thought.

HoldEmNewby 09-05-2007 11:46 PM

Re: 100nl: marginal spot in RR pot
 
is a c/c really profitable here?

cs3 09-05-2007 11:54 PM

Re: 100nl: marginal spot in RR pot
 
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is a c/c really profitable here?

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i dont see how it is adn not sure why everyone seems to love it. i hate check call. we're missing most of the time on the turn, are OOP when we do hit so extracting is difficult, and almost always face another big bet when we miss, so we have to fold the turn anyway. and villains likely has redraws even when we do hit on the turn.

b/f and c/f are both better i think.

and b/c is jsut rediculous. if anyone is even thinking about a b/c then you should just ch/rai.

barryc83 09-06-2007 12:07 AM

Re: 100nl: marginal spot in RR pot
 
Pot odds wise I have 37% equity after he shoves (1.69:1).

Board: 9c Jd Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.269% 28.47% 01.80% 60876 3852.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 69.731% 67.93% 01.80% 145260 3852.00 { TT+ }

If you include AQ in his range then its close, but I still think hes folding this alot given how ive played.

Board: 9c Jd Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.720% 18.98% 17.74% 60876 56907.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 63.280% 45.54% 17.74% 146070 56907.00 { TT+, AQs, AQo }

cs3 09-06-2007 12:13 AM

Re: 100nl: marginal spot in RR pot
 
i dont think villain is ever shoving AQ on that board. that flop shouldve nailed your range and he should never expect you to b/f (even though you it just so happens that u should with your exact holding)

Spechel EDD 09-06-2007 01:29 AM

Re: 100nl: marginal spot in RR pot
 
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I held JJ

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yah i was going to say sets but i was a bit sloshed so yah w/e i meant to say that the majority of the time its nuts/near nuts/blah blah and a bluff 10% of the time.


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