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Spurious 09-03-2007 08:37 AM

Re: NL 50 AK villian shoves turn
 
I dont know if we should call here. Is he doing it with AQ? Which hand do we beat?
4:1 are good odds, but i got a feeling that we are down to 4 outs.



What did he have?

Dumle 09-03-2007 08:43 AM

Re: NL 50 AK villian shoves turn
 
Another thing popped into my mind. His most likely hand is probably AJ, since he didn't raise the flop. Could someone do an equity calculation with that in mind? If no one is up for it, I'll do it later, but I don't have the time now.

Also, he might decide to go wacky with a flush draw, which pumps up our equity a bit. Ah well, this one could be as complex as you'd like...

Dumle

bob_sacamano 09-03-2007 08:52 AM

Re: NL 50 AK villian shoves turn
 
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4:1 are good odds, but i got a feeling that we are down to 4 outs.

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Reading again, maybe we are really down to 4 outs. But I'd call anyway. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

What did he have? (when I asked about the next move, I wanted to know if you called or folded)

xeanatic 09-03-2007 09:13 AM

Re: NL 50 AK villian shoves turn
 
I called and fwiw he had TT

bob_sacamano 09-03-2007 09:16 AM

Re: NL 50 AK villian shoves turn
 
nice read Spurious

sailorman 09-03-2007 10:02 AM

Re: NL 50 AK villian shoves turn
 
I think you have to call here.

Spurious 09-03-2007 10:06 AM

Re: NL 50 AK villian shoves turn
 
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I think you have to call here.

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You dont have to!!!
Calling is not terrible, but as i said above, it looks like a better hand than just toppair.

This is a typical situation, where players tend to call because of the potodds, but if we analyze the situation, why would villain push on the turn without a reasonable hand.

payoff wizard 09-03-2007 10:53 AM

Re: NL 50 AK villian shoves turn
 
IMO, if your not prepared to call a shove, then you shouldn't be betting the turn.

Daniel LeClaire 09-03-2007 11:49 AM

Re: NL 50 AK villian shoves turn
 
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IMO, if your not prepared to call a shove, then you shouldn't be betting the turn.

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Spurious 09-03-2007 11:58 AM

Re: NL 50 AK villian shoves turn
 
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IMO, if your not prepared to call a shove, then you shouldn't be betting the turn.

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Why?
Should we check here and give villain a free card?


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