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Fantam 09-01-2007 03:04 PM

Re: Flopped 4th set.
 
A set is when you make 3 of a kind, with a pocket pair in your hand.

Trips, by the way is when you make 3 of a kind, with one card in your hand and a pair on the board.

In this hand, you had top 2 pair.

As far as the turn goes, I think that I would have called the turn raise.

There are more combinations for your opponent to hold KQ or 66 (19) than JT (6), which are the hands that I think he would be most likely to raise with.

You cant fold the turn, because 1. You might have the best hand. and 2. If you are behind, you still have 4 outs to a full house.

bennyhana 09-01-2007 03:05 PM

Re: Flopped 4th set.
 
F-

Why didn't you bet the flop? If you were thinking someone would bet your hand for you, wouldn't you like it bettter if they raised it for you?

You should always be betting coordinated flops. DON'T GIVE FREE CARDS TO MONSTER DRAWS!!

horrible.

post grunch, I got the fourth set bit. You need to work on your game, though, not your creative post titles.

Xylocain 09-01-2007 03:42 PM

Re: Flopped 4th set.
 
I know the flop play sucked pretty bad... when I checked I figured a flop with a an A and a FD would never be checked trough and a bet (given my image)would take it down right there if noone had an ace (given I had raped the deck pretty bad for high pairs)... I think I was FPSing because I took a shot.

... actually what bugged my about the hand was getting raised on this board by a nit when an off suit J hit. I hoped that directing attention to the flop would get me less biased answers, heh well that worked out swell.

So to get back on track, MP3 would never slowplay a set, an ace or a FD on the flop beeing last to act... given this what is EV between 3-town (taking my flop miss and MP1 into account) and calling.


whats with all the levelheadedness about 4th set... jeez people, did you think Tylers Vil actually had Anna Kournikova in his lap during that hand too?

Xylocain 09-01-2007 03:43 PM

Re: Flopped 4th set.
 


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You need to work on your game, though, not your creative post titles.[/i]

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tell me about it

RemyXO 09-01-2007 05:02 PM

Re: Flopped 4th set.
 
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Being first to act, i like the check. As played, this way we make it easier for the field to call our turn bet. Unfortunately, we have to hate that raise so i call down if UI on river.

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How the heck do you make it easier - villains are getting 5:1 on the flop call and 3:1 on the turn call. They can't draw anymore correctly.

I am leading this flop, no questions. There was no preflop raise, you have no idea if anyone would bet it for you.

Even if your C/R succeeds, it gives away the strenght of you hand so much that you'll usually seet check-folds on the turn.

Bet and hope for calls and raises.

MrWookie 09-01-2007 05:03 PM

Re: Flopped 4th set.
 
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Lead the flop as it gets money in.

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If you don't know who's going to oblige you by betting, you probably shouldn't c/r.

F. McSimmons 09-01-2007 05:07 PM

Re: Flopped 4th set.
 
even I know that we should bet this flop.

neurotiq 09-01-2007 05:24 PM

Re: Flopped 4th set.
 
I'm raising this preflop. You may not be the favorite to win the hand, but I think you have equity against all the limpers.

On the flop, I'm opening. I have a GREAT hand and nobody's shown any strength so far. We can't guarantee a c/r with no aggressors, so just bet it out.

The turn c/r is scary. I call down from here.

Xylocain 09-01-2007 05:35 PM

Re: Flopped 4th set.
 
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Even if your C/R succeeds, it gives away the strenght of you hand

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I dunno, I dont see a c/r a LP from EP as very strong. It looks more like protection to me.

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If you don't know who's going to oblige you by betting, you probably shouldn't c/r.

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QFT

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I'm raising this preflop. You may not be the favorite to win the hand, but I think you have equity against all the limpers.

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I prefer just checking these hands (even AQo) in the blinds unless there are so many limpers that I must push my equity edge. I have perfect relative position but I will be playing OOP for the rest of the hand. (edited to say, turn isn't a c/r)

Now what about the trurn.

F. McSimmons 09-01-2007 05:51 PM

Re: Flopped 4th set.
 
How can you not raise AQo from the blinds in hands like this? I can see ATo being checked but I raise ATs here and AJo... you've gotta be losing value here


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