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DOMIT 09-10-2007 11:27 PM

Re: 5 card draw question about taking only two
 
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You always draw three to QQK; the only exception might be
that you somehow knew your opponent had a pair of queens as
well (but how could you know that?). The only time to keep
a king kicker is if you have AAKxy and knew your lone
opponent could only have either AA or KK. Another spot
is when you open raise and are against the two blinds that
both draw three and you know the SB has AA and you have AAK
(doesn't matter what pair the BB has).

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If we have QQA I'd assume it might be better to keep the ace than keep a king?

I wasn't doing the play for deception really.

I think the thing which I don't understand is why does drawing one extra card to the queen matter so much? We are playing limit and half the time we hit our hand we only win like zero or one more bets.

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Personally, I think that this illustrates the difference between what you would do in limit vs pot/no-limit... In limit, I'd be with the 95% of always drawing 3. I can chose, based on the player, whether or not I call. The pot's usually big enough that making the call unimproved vs a 1-card is usually correct if I think the person is capable of bluffing.

In pot/no-limit draw, so many people will call with draws and then bluff whether they got there or not HU, that I'll keep the kicker (HU) more than in limit so that I don't have to face the big bet post (they can't represent a better hand if I'm already representing a better hand...).

As a side note, since I do this, I pretty much never false card trips unless I'm HU w/ a 3card.

brian1175 09-14-2007 02:46 PM

Re: 5 card draw question about taking only two
 
I think the biggest situation to take 2 would be when your up against an opponent who likes to lead into you.

Let's say you raise queens from the button and the BB calls. He takes 3, If he likes to lead I will take 2 so he will have to think twice about leading out. Then I can check down or bet depending on what happens.

brian1175 09-14-2007 02:47 PM

Re: 5 card draw question about taking only two
 
Another thing about drawing 2 or 3. The actual odds isn't enough to even make me care what is better, but mixing it up is priceless


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