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Hattifnatt 08-28-2007 11:49 AM

Re: 5/10 hu preflop decision for stacks with 88
 
dont think its a pair 6s and below often at all. maybe you can throw in AJs though.

jfish 08-28-2007 11:50 AM

Re: 5/10 hu preflop decision for stacks with 88
 
you cant completely discount KK+ at all imo.

EC10 08-28-2007 11:53 AM

Re: 5/10 hu preflop decision for stacks with 88
 
i mean noone would ever dream of folding JJ here, prob not even TT, 88 isnt really that huge of a difference

jfish 08-28-2007 11:55 AM

Re: 5/10 hu preflop decision for stacks with 88
 
i would dream of folding TT, prob not JJ.

jsnipes28 08-28-2007 11:56 AM

Re: 5/10 hu preflop decision for stacks with 88
 
ya im rly worried a lot more about 99-TT than anything else. I probably call more than I should, and you would know best since you have played him a bit.

Has he shown anything down that would lead you to believe he's a bit overaggro? I think given the minraise-3bet allin I might give it a little more credit and fold here.

EC10 08-28-2007 11:59 AM

Re: 5/10 hu preflop decision for stacks with 88
 
at the time i couldnt recall a showdown but turns out there was one where he played turned top pair crap kicker v weak

Xyven 08-28-2007 12:02 PM

Re: 5/10 hu preflop decision for stacks with 88
 
The difference between TT/JJ and 88 is that when you have the bigger pairs you're crushing him when he decides to get cute with T9s or JTs, as well as beating 88-TT, all of which helps make up for the times when he flips over QQ and you cry a little bit inside.

I think a more realistic range for him is 66+/AJs+/AQo+/T9s/JTs/KQs, which you're not in very good shape against with 88.

Also like I said on IRC it's a small pot and it's ok to fold a situation like this because if he's [censored] around here he'll have some pretty huge leaks that you'll be able to take advantage of later on.

EC10 08-28-2007 12:12 PM

Re: 5/10 hu preflop decision for stacks with 88
 
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The difference between TT/JJ and 88 is that when you have the bigger pairs you're crushing him when he decides to get cute with T9s or JTs, as well as beating 88-TT, all of which helps make up for the times when he flips over QQ and you cry a little bit inside.

I think a more realistic range for him is 66+/AJs+/AQo+/T9s/JTs/KQs, which you're not in very good shape against with 88.

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these are good points i think

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Also like I said on IRC it's a small pot and it's ok to fold a situation like this because if he's [censored] around here he'll have some pretty huge leaks that you'll be able to take advantage of later on.

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these arent

Requin 08-28-2007 12:21 PM

Re: 5/10 hu preflop decision for stacks with 88
 
AK/TT+

EC10 08-28-2007 12:22 PM

Re: 5/10 hu preflop decision for stacks with 88
 
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AK/TT+

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why would you call AK and fold 88, 88 > AK


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