Re: spewmonkey?!? who you callin\' spewmonkey?
 

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Full Tilt 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, Hero ????

OK, so what's the plan now?

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getting back on track...

Im not a fan of the play here unless I've got pair outs in which case I would rather raise flop.

Therefore I would just call/call (this may seem suspicious, but i prefer drawing that way here)

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3b/call cap.

bet/call all non diamond, board pairing river.

Re: spewmonkey?!? who you callin\' spewmonkey?
 

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Full Tilt 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, Hero ????

OK, so what's the plan now?

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MP1 could have just AK here maybe even with a diamond, I would raise again &amp; if he caps i slow down.

Given ur flop line he may put u on a set, so if he caps there's a good chance we're still ahead.

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Full Tilt 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, Hero ????

OK, so what's the plan now?

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80/16 can't hold too many better flush combos that raised PF compared to sets, hands like QJ, AK, and even spewy overpairs. I'd 3 bet.

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3town

all i am worried about really given his play (on previous streets) at this point is ak diamonds for the royal [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], or some kind of random higher flush like A8 diamonds or something.

however he's a superlag so i'm not really even really considering that yet. he can also reasonably hold overpairs with the diamond, the ak straight, or sets. or he could have total trash, or two pair, or something.

either way jam it now.

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Given the action you've already put in, villain probably didn't put you on a flush draw.

Villain is 83/16. The probability that he's a moron exceeds the chance he has a better flush.

I go to three-town.

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FACK!!

I swear, I get more pissed at myself for not winning enough on the hands I do win than I get at myself for losing more on the hands I should have lost less.

Thanks guys. I'm still a little gunshy when it comes to ramming and jamming on the turn and river.

I was thinking I should have 3 bet turn, but I kept seeing monsters under my bed, and in my closet, and in my underwear drawer, and in the pool, and in the bed of my truck and walking up my driveway....

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Full Tilt 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, Hero ????

OK, so what's the plan now?

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This turn donk makes no sense to me unless you knew in advance you wanted to 3bet.