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ipokeder 08-26-2007 01:48 PM

Re: TT v squeeze 100bb
 
NERDDDDDDDD

jfish 08-26-2007 01:50 PM

Re: TT v squeeze 100bb
 
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I'd fold > 4bet > shove > call, I only 4bet if villain is crazy out of line

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how does 4-betting work here? with TT you're committed vs a shove unless you minraise

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you could 4bet small to induce a 5bet with a wider range and then perhaps increase our own equity maybe. dont think that works with TT here though.

ipokeder 08-26-2007 01:53 PM

Re: TT v squeeze 100bb
 
i think actually it's more likely that a small 4-bet is better because the villian is a lot less likely to reshove over a 4-bet with AK or JJ than he is to call a shove with them, but it depends on your preflop style entirely, i.e. how often you 4-bet and how often you straight shove

Josh. 08-26-2007 02:00 PM

Re: TT v squeeze 100bb
 
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josh is such a geek about analyzing these spots

ps I think you'll find my +$1 EV estimate is about right on

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i get squeezed every other hand nowadays on ftp

e_hammer 08-26-2007 02:03 PM

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I'd fold > 4bet > shove > call, I only 4bet if villain is crazy out of line

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my line as well

luegofuego 08-26-2007 02:05 PM

Re: TT v squeeze 100bb
 
i think shove fold and call all work. prob doesnt matter much. i def disagree that calling is a disaster. it can get a bit sticky and awkward but im sure u can navigate it since ur a sicko on a hot run.

Josh. 08-26-2007 02:06 PM

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i think actually it's more likely that a small 4-bet is better because the villian is a lot less likely to reshove over a 4-bet with AK or JJ than he is to call a shove with them, but it depends on your preflop style entirely, i.e. how often you 4-bet and how often you straight shove

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no one is folding AK or JJ here, period

obiedman 08-26-2007 02:08 PM

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i think actually it's more likely that a small 4-bet is better because the villian is a lot less likely to reshove over a 4-bet with AK or JJ than he is to call a shove with them, but it depends on your preflop style entirely, i.e. how often you 4-bet and how often you straight shove

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no one is folding AK or JJ here, period

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yea they'll convince themselves you're resqueezing and call all day

Hoopster81 08-26-2007 02:19 PM

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I'd fold > 4bet > shove > call, I only 4bet if villain is crazy out of line

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how does this order change if we're holding QQ

jfish 08-26-2007 02:20 PM

Re: TT v squeeze 100bb
 
folding AK or JJ v me is probably pretty bad too.


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