Re: yo check it...I HAVE A PAIR! YES THATS RIGHT..THE TOP PAIR !
 

lol baluga spot. as in, shove all-in and get called by worse

Re: yo check it...I HAVE A PAIR! YES THATS RIGHT..THE TOP PAIR !
 

People can't have it both ways here.

Those suggesting raising/shoving are obviously assuming he's dumb enough to bet and call a worse queen here (which is horrible). But at the same time, they're also saying there's no way he could have gotten here with a 3 unless it was some sort of monster like A3ss. This is a steal situation where the only paint is a Q. A pair of threes isn't just giving up their hand here.

There are way more hands with weak queens or threes than there are strong queens in his range. Without a postflop read, raising or shoving the river is bad. Call and start learning how he plays postflop.

Re: yo check it...I HAVE A PAIR! YES THATS RIGHT..THE TOP PAIR !
 

BETTING or shoving? are you saying you dont value bet this river if he checks, so that you can "learn how he plays postflop"?

PLEASEEEE tell me i misunderstood you?

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There are way more hands with weak queens or threes than there are strong queens in his range.

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how is this NOT a reason to shove the river? because you think he checks the weak queens and bets the 3 or something?

Re: yo check it...I HAVE A PAIR! YES THATS RIGHT..THE TOP PAIR !
 

I shove all-in. The river bet looks very weak to me. If villain shows a X3 or a full house so be it. I don't believe that villain has trips. The weak bet smells like KQ/QJ/QT.

Re: yo check it...I HAVE A PAIR! YES THATS RIGHT..THE TOP PAIR !
 

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BETTING or shoving? are you saying you dont value bet this river if he checks, so that you can "learn how he plays postflop"?

PLEASEEEE tell me i misunderstood you?

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There are way more hands with weak queens or threes than there are strong queens in his range.

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how is this NOT a reason to shove the river? because you think he checks the weak queens and bets the 3 or something?

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Typo corrected: raising, not betting. You obviously value bet the river 100% of the time when checked to. However, once he leads out - if his range is primarily weak queens and threes then raising/shoving makes little sense as there is no reason to expect him to call with a weak queen (though he may - again postflop read) and you're value stacking yourself when he has a three.

Re: yo check it...I HAVE A PAIR! YES THATS RIGHT..THE TOP PAIR !
 

yea that makes sense dire i see what u sayin. wonder if the average villain with those stats IS dumb enuf to stack off with KQ

Re: yo check it...I HAVE A PAIR! YES THATS RIGHT..THE TOP PAIR !
 

I think that you are WA/WB. I would call. I think that the villain was making a 1/3 pot blocking bet with a weak queen or an underpair of some kind hoping for a cheap showdown.

I don't think that a raise would get called by a worse hand.

Re: yo check it...I HAVE A PAIR! YES THATS RIGHT..THE TOP PAIR !
 

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I think that you are WA/WB.

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Re: yo check it...I HAVE A PAIR! YES THATS RIGHT..THE TOP PAIR !
 

u can minraise or make it $122

Re: yo check it...I HAVE A PAIR! YES THATS RIGHT..THE TOP PAIR !
 

Shove.

He's probably blocking with his [censored] queen. Shove and make him tank.