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nevereverwin 08-23-2007 07:21 AM

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 
Giving up would be JH*U^^*&KJKO... So instashove and spike onother 8 just in case..

Marwan 08-23-2007 07:37 AM

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 
I would check/fold, I really don't think he's just calling your 4-bet with AQ/AK PF if there's not even a PSB left post flop.. and he's never folding an over-pair.

Unknown Soldier 08-23-2007 08:14 AM

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 
pf is fine c/f flop

tmcdmck 08-23-2007 08:59 AM

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 
assuming his range is AQs+ AKo TT+ it is a narrow shove as he has 65% equity, but with that much in the pot . . .), but his range could easily be KQs+, AJs+ TT+ in which case he only has 53% equity. then factor in the chances of him being an idiot and calling AI with A high I would say it is a profitable shove, but rubbish pre.

pepper123 08-23-2007 10:20 AM

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 
We have 10% equity vs overpairs. Each time we get it in vs an overpair we lose $40 (.1 * (83+60) - .9*60).

Vs 2 overcards we have 75% equity. IF we can get it in vs them then we make $92 (.75 * (83+60) - .25*60).


sooooo if you think he has overcards 33% of the time here and will shove if you check then check/call. otherwise check fold.

personally, i think his range is weighted really far towards pairs. AA/KK are most likely, with a possibility of JJ/TT waiting to see a non-ace flop (i'll do that sometimes vs really aggros instead of flipping pf). he's not calling/folding anything you want him to so shoving is silly.

Daddy Warbucks 08-23-2007 10:39 AM

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 
On an unpaired board i'd probably stack off. Here's you're probably drawing to 2 outs, so i c/f.


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