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Bishop22 08-19-2007 04:25 PM

Re: Picking up a new game - Stud or Omaha
 
With a five minute lesson you could be beating the 5-10 O8B at the Taj, it is much easier to pick up than Stud and since you only play 6 hours a month this is an easy decison..O8B.

daveT 08-19-2007 06:40 PM

Re: Picking up a new game - Stud or Omaha
 
I have been playing holdem for a while. For me O8 is a serious mind####. Just don't understand it at all. I think that with your hours played and "WR," it doesn't matter. You don't expect to become super great at either one. I think the best would be to play one for one half a day, then the second for the other half. Whichever one you enjoy better, go with it.

steamboatin 08-19-2007 07:08 PM

Re: Picking up a new game - Stud or Omaha
 
I have been learning non-holdem games and I highly recommend it. It will definetely improve your poker skills.

All the things the other posters have said about old guys, NITS and arguments are accurate. O/8 players are old and they love to complain but they also draw to runner runner lows.

There isn't much Stud played around here except for $30-60 on Friday nights at Caesar's IN. There is a $1-5 Stud game at Casino Aztar. I haven't played but the average age is at least 70 and the average chip stack is less than what it costs me to drive the round trip.

*TT* 08-20-2007 04:18 AM

Re: Picking up a new game - Stud or Omaha
 
*mod note* - technically this thread doesn't belong in B&M because its not a B&M specific question. Since I can't think of a forum on 2+2 where it would be a good fit except the Omaha or Stud forums (where the OP won't receive an unbiased answer in either), I guess we can leave it in B&M.

From my own personal experience playing nearly every variant of poker under the sun (even Chinese Poker) I wouldn't advise Stud or O8 to be your "second game", you should first learn to play limit Hold'em before switching to either of these games, limit is a totally different animal and you will be better served knowing the concepts behind the Fundamental Therm of Poker (as discussed in TOP) before moving to Stud or Omaha 8.

Good luck on your first step towards learning to play other games!

Gonso 08-20-2007 04:43 AM

Re: Picking up a new game - Stud or Omaha
 
He plays LHE and doesn't like it that much

*TT* 08-20-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Picking up a new game - Stud or Omaha
 
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He plays LHE and doesn't like it that much

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I caught that, if he doesnt like limit Hold'em then he will be a fish out of water in the O8 and Stud games. He really needs to learn how to correctly play limit hold'em first because his NL skills will not translate well to O8 or stud.

fishyak 08-20-2007 12:26 PM

Re: Picking up a new game - Stud or Omaha
 
Another reason to back TT's advice about LLHE. When you come to Las Vegas, good luck finding Stud and O/8 is a trip off the strip at best. You'll be able to find LHE games if you want a break from NLHE.

I like O/8. I play in LA but when I am getting ready for a Vegas run, I STOP playing O/8 because I WON'T be playing any O/8 in LV.

TS Clark 08-20-2007 12:32 PM

Re: Picking up a new game - Stud or Omaha
 
I concur with what TT said. If you want to learn another game, you're going to have to learn to play limit correctly. LHE is, by far, the easiest way to do this -- the easiest to practice, the easiest to game select, etc..

I don't much care for LHE anymore either, but I am glad I learned to play this first, because it has provided me a really solid theoretical foundation for all the other games I've learned (and I play all the stud variants pretty well).

*TT* 08-20-2007 12:37 PM

Re: Picking up a new game - Stud or Omaha
 
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I concur with what TT said. If you want to learn another game, you're going to have to learn to play limit correctly. LHE is, by far, the easiest way to do this -- the easiest to practice, the easiest to game select, etc..

I don't much care for LHE anymore either, but I am glad I learned to play this first, because it has provided me a really solid theoretical foundation for all the other games I've learned (and I play all the stud variants pretty well).

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I should have added that I recommend learning Razz before Stud (and after limit hold'em) because its the easiest form to master and the most applicable to applying the concepts of the Fundamental Theorem of Poker.

Kurn, son of Mogh 08-20-2007 02:02 PM

Re: Picking up a new game - Stud or Omaha
 
I'm going to disagree with some other folks here and say do not make LHE your 2nd game if NLHE is your first. I think the differences between the two games may at least initially have a negative effect since both are HE.

I'd suggest stud for 2 reasons.

1. You play in AC & FW. You are in stud central. There will always be a lot of stud games to choose from.

2. After NLHE, limit O/8 will be like watching paint dry, except more boring.


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