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I really don't mind bad players sucking out because I know I'll win their money in the long run, but I have to say, sometimes people decide to play for more money than they can handle, get lucky, and never come back. It's not really that bad in a way but it sure seems unfair.

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And I would like to know which players like to slowplay, which will bluff a lot, what each players' raising standards are, etc.

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none of the above-mentioned actions are unethical. repeated hit and runs from an online regular is in my book. i've always thought of poker as a gentlemen's game, and it's people like this that ruin it for the rest of us.

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And I wouldn't try to berate anybody about maturity...You're the one to talk...

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Maybe you confused me joking around before with being immature, I dunno.

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And I would like to know which players like to slowplay, which will bluff a lot, what each players' raising standards are, etc.

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none of the above-mentioned actions are unethical. repeated hit and runs from an online regular is in my book. i've always thought of poker as a gentlemen's game, and it's people like this that ruin it for the rest of us.

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Dave,

Ethical lines are always blurred but they have become increasingly blurred with regards to standard B&M rules applied to online games.

For example, in B&M play it is unethical to request to see a mucked showdown hand merely for informational purposes. Are you trying to tell me that you've never once in your life looked in the hand history box just to see what you opponent mucked while playing online? If you have, are you any better than the guy you're critisizing in your OP?

Similarly, in B%M play ratholing has always been unethical. But theres no practical way to stop it online so its almost become acceptable. Moreover, with so many tables available on so many sites it has become a rather moot point to even try to enforce it. Of course this is all debateable, and I won't claim that my view is any more true than yours.

Bottom line, is that the guy probably isn't as good as you. Just take his money in the long run and stop complaining.

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Are you trying to tell me that you've never once in your life looked in the hand history box just to see what you opponent mucked while playing online? If you have, are you any better than the guy you're critisizing in your OP?

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yes, i'm not a skirt-wearing hit and run artist.

I have 130 Full Ring hands with him today (he's down about $400). I suspect this is just the way he plays SH. Thx. for the warning.

FullTiltPoker Game #3267175616: Table Tulane (6 max) - $1/$2 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 1:45:42 ET - 2007/08/16
Seat 1: SammyOne ($243.15)
Seat 2: Phillyho ($149.80)
Seat 3: Chamonyx ($205.15)
Seat 4: ColdBlood88 ($183.30)
Seat 5: MegaDisgruntled ($210.75)
Seat 6: Pasmal ($53.25)
SammyOne posts the small blind of $1
Phillyho posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MegaDisgruntled [4c Ad 2d 6c]
Chamonyx folds
ColdBlood88 calls $2
Chamonyx stands up
MegaDisgruntled raises to $9
Pasmal has 15 seconds left to act
Pasmal folds
SammyOne folds
Phillyho folds
ColdBlood88 calls $7
*** FLOP *** [6d 9h Qd]
ColdBlood88 checks
MegaDisgruntled bets $10.50
ColdBlood88 raises to $52.50
MegaDisgruntled calls $42
*** TURN *** [6d 9h Qd] [9d]
ColdBlood88 has 15 seconds left to act
ColdBlood88 bets $74
MegaDisgruntled raises to $148
ColdBlood88 calls $47.80, and is all in
MegaDisgruntled shows [4c Ad 2d 6c]
ColdBlood88 shows [Kc Jh Td Jc]
Uncalled bet of $26.20 returned to MegaDisgruntled
*** RIVER *** [6d 9h Qd 9d] [Ac]
MegaDisgruntled shows a flush, Ace high, for high
ColdBlood88 shows two pair, Jacks and Nines, for high
MegaDisgruntled wins the pot ($366.60) with a flush, Ace high
ColdBlood88 is sitting out
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $369.60 | Rake $3
Board: [6d 9h Qd 9d Ac]
Seat 1: SammyOne (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Phillyho (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Chamonyx didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: ColdBlood88 showed [Kc Jh Td Jc] and lost with HI: two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 5: MegaDisgruntled showed [4c Ad 2d 6c] and won ($366.60) with HI: a flush, Ace high

My comment afterwards:

THAT WAS FOR DAVEBREAL, YOU SPINELESS BASTARD!!!!!

Now THAT I LOLed at!

If I weren't in the office, I'd be ROFLMAOing at the HH Mega posted. CB88 spends a lot of time at the 100 and 200 max tables, have seen him at the 400 table (all primarily PLO8 AFAIK) more recently. As compared with the pool of semi-regular through very regular players, he seems better than probably 2/3 of them. Without going into specifics, my notes have identified numerous exploitable traits in his play, he may be spineless (can't comment on that) but he is def not plumb dumb IMO.

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Moreover, with so many tables available on so many sites it has become a rather moot point to even try to enforce it. Of course this is all debateable, and I won't claim that my view is any more true than yours.

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So easy, if you double up on a table and leave, then when you buy in at another table of the same stake, you buy in for what you left the other table with.

If they can keep track for the same table, then they can keep track in general.