Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

who is villian?

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

I doubt he folds a pair here.

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

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who is villian?

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you.

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

I'll have to look in my db and find this hand...can't remember it off hand and I have no idea why I'm sitting short [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

fwiw my only note on you is: "wide pf raise range- autocbets heads up" - so I doubt I fold a pair here and in fact you might get c/r'ed if you bet this turn.

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fwiw my only note on you is: "wide pf raise range- autocbets heads up" - so I doubt I fold a pair here and in fact you might get c/r'ed if you bet this turn.

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This is why I dont like doubling here. The only big hands you can credibly have here are sets and AQ which represent a miniscule part of your range. Of his calling range I would expect all pairs to call and even some broadway hands which may put you on a double and try to take you on the river.

The thing about dry boards is that though they are unlikely to have hit your opponent they are unlikely to have hit you as well, therefore the only hands you can be betting are the ones that you are going to go three streets with or c/r the river with. In other words, hands that are going to see a showdown. So IMO the question here is not whether you want to double, its whether you want to triple, because you can definitely expect a call on the turn a LOT here, and if you check the river you can often expect a bet (or even a check behind for SD which you will lose most of the time)

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

He cant really have anything strong here if he is any good. I would be very surprised to see anything but TT-88, even TT is a stretch. But the thing is he is not folding it on a blank so don't even try, just hit your outs.

ps Hint: 2+2'er on your left. I change tables.

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But the thing is he is not folding it on a blank so don't even try

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Crucial. It doesnt matter if he is strong because just about his whole range is strong atm. What matters is if he will fold.

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

wow you think he wouldn't fold an under pair to a two barrel? possibly not given AZ's note on me, but that's pretty bad news long term IMO.

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

He has TPGK here most of the time and a medium pair here some of the time. Out of position I would assume a 2p2er would raise a set?? I think your fold equity is low because the 2d doesn't change anything for the villain. If he was willing to call the flop he's probably willing to call the turn. I would check behind to try and hit your draws.