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RyanCMU 08-08-2007 10:11 PM

Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with
 
77, 88, 99. As5s, Ah5h, 3h4h, 3s4s, 7s8s, 7h8h, 7d8d, JJ, QQ, random bluffs/air, various combinations of 89s, 55, 56s, 67s, A6s.

Basically, his range is huge here, and we stack up somewhat favorably vs it and he doesn't even have af ull stack and is an unkown. So we gotta get it in here.

Teddie 08-08-2007 10:16 PM

Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with
 
I'd nearly rule out Q's here and say that J's are also pretty unlikely. I dont know what NL 50 is like but i'd say most players here would be 3betting those hands from the blinds.

Renton 08-08-2007 10:16 PM

Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with
 
well, there are VERY few spots where its ok to get all in with one pair of TT. This just happens to be one of them. You probably got stacked previously in -EV scenarios with TT.

ToomuchCoffee 08-09-2007 05:00 AM

Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with
 
This is NL50, and I lost 3 BI in the last 2 days on hands like that against 3 different maniacs.
1. Hand: Villian called my raise with Q6o and made a set.
2. Hand: he coldcalled my raise (JJ) with KK
3. Hand: he coldcalled my raise (KK) with 67o and floped a boat.

Iīm not whining, but it canīt be that wrong to fold this hand at 50NL.

TheProdigy 08-09-2007 05:02 AM

Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with
 
Everything Renton has said on this thread is spot on.

mce86 08-09-2007 05:05 AM

Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with
 
I dont know that its better. I dont have a read. Im tempted to call and see what he does on the turn. Are we assuming he has an overpair here, or is he holding a mid-pair?

HesseJam 08-09-2007 10:17 AM

Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with
 
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by the way i hope everyone realizes that villain only has a 35 stack

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Well, I didn't. Good thing you pointed that out.


-> Pooosh. And it's not close!

Mike Kelley 08-09-2007 10:53 AM

Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with
 
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[ QUOTE ]
by the way i hope everyone realizes that villain only has a 35 stack

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, I didn't. Good thing you pointed that out.


-> Pooosh. And it's not close!

[/ QUOTE ]


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

262,350 games 0.005 secs 52,470,000 games/sec

Board: 6s 6h 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.333% 53.14% 00.19% 139421 499.00 { TdTh }
Hand 1: 46.667% 46.48% 00.19% 121931 499.00 { QQ-55, A6s-A5s, K6s-K5s, Q6s-Q5s, J6s-J5s, T6s-T5s, 96s-95s, 86s-85s, 72s+, 62s+, A7o-A6o, K7o-K6o, Q7o-Q6o, J7o-J6o, T7o-T6o, 97o-96o, 86o+, 76o, 62o+, 52o+ }

WarhammerIIC 08-09-2007 10:54 AM

Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with
 
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nah, I found a better spot after I had a read on villain I think.

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This "better spot" stuff in reference to cash games makes me laugh.

This is a cash game, there is no such thing. It's either a good spot or it's not. It doesn't matter if it's the "best" spot.

I don't know why people post hands when they just want people to tell them what they want to hear.

WarhammerIIC 08-09-2007 10:55 AM

Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with
 
[ QUOTE ]
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

262,350 games 0.005 secs 52,470,000 games/sec

Board: 6s 6h 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.333% 53.14% 00.19% 139421 499.00 { TdTh }
Hand 1: 46.667% 46.48% 00.19% 121931 499.00 { QQ-55, A6s-A5s, K6s-K5s, Q6s-Q5s, J6s-J5s, T6s-T5s, 96s-95s, 86s-85s, 72s+, 62s+, A7o-A6o, K7o-K6o, Q7o-Q6o, J7o-J6o, T7o-T6o, 97o-96o, 86o+, 76o, 62o+, 52o+ }

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If this is the range you put him on, then pushing is +EV. So push.


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