Re: 2 Tricky Hand I\'ve played today
 

#1 8BB is stick beating. Villians 3-bet must be respected and fold PF. The flop was played horridly also. For these reasons I will not consider the flop
#2 Fold PF. Ignoring this, Flop played fine,

Re: 2 Tricky Hand I\'ve played today
 

Not quite "OMFG this must be the worst poker I have seen" but pretty close.

Re: 2 Tricky Hand I\'ve played today
 

Dude, you need to slow down. In Hand #1, your open is way too big. I think you fold AQ preflop to a reraise with no reads. With a read on villain that he may be LAG a call may be ok here with position, but I still dont love it, because hes reraising your large raise. On the flop what are you doing? Do you have any reasoning as to why you are shoving here? Its a clear fold.
In Hand #2, Im not even gonna comment.

Re: 2 Tricky Hand I\'ve played today
 

I have to say 8x is a bit extreme and once you are reraised its time to fold. And if you accidentally caugh and click call, you fold to that flop as you are still behind almost all 3betting hands and you are not drawing to the nut flush.

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I have to say 8x is a bit extreme and once you are reraised its time to fold. And if you accidentally caugh and click call, you fold to that flop as you are still behind almost all 3betting hands and you are not drawing to the nut flush.

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Re: 2 Tricky Hand I\'ve played today
 

Hand 1:

Your open in hand 1 is too big. If sb hasn't 3bet a few times I fold pre-flop.

If I called pre-flop then I fold the flop.



Hand 2:

Probably fold pre-flop.
As played my flop raise would be bigger....like 6 or so.....easy all-in.

Re: 2 Tricky Hand I\'ve played today
 

in hand one you're going to be up against an ace or king of clubs a lot. whole hand is gross.

hand two is fine but folding pf is better readless.

Re: 2 Tricky Hand I\'ve played today
 

Thx for all the answers, I know that 8x is a huge raise for a preflop raise, but I tryed for a night to use it... I finally use it only for 30 min. And before losing lots of money, I posted here to see reaction of people. I pushed all in because I counted 12 outs + maybe he could fold, because he tryed to bluff, also a jacks is not a scary card. Sometime, I think everyone at NL25 is Moron because they have stats like 55/8/1 and I open the range of the hand they could have. I can say now with full confidence, it's gonna be the last time, I will open raise 8x :P

Re: 2 Tricky Hand I\'ve played today
 

i agree with most here. Hand 1... fold pre, he re raised your 8x open and u still call. flop play is asking for trouble.non nut draw and hes got you crushed when you consider his range for re raising the large pre flop bet.
Hand 2 i actually would fold pre flop but would take a very similar line post. Maybe re raise to 5.5 or 6 but definately want to get it in. Equity is very good here.