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SmileyEH 08-03-2007 07:27 PM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
This is dumb. Answer: It depends on the person.

J.Brown 08-03-2007 07:44 PM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
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QFT, but........which would be hardest for you Smiley?

SmileyEH 08-03-2007 07:48 PM

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QFT, but........which would be hardest for you Smiley?

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2xbw bench ldo. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Over the past year it's possible I've raised my bench from 1xBW to....1.2XBW SHIP IT HOLLA.

Rootabager 08-03-2007 10:45 PM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
I think it's def 36in vertical. you are born with that kind of stuff.

Other stuff is hard as hell and i think that is mostly genetic as well, but not like vertical.

J.Brown 08-03-2007 11:57 PM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
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This is dumb. Answer: It depends on the person.

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QFT, but........which would be hardest for you Smiley?

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2xbw bench ldo. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Over the past year it's possible I've raised my bench from 1xBW to....1.2XBW SHIP IT HOLLA.

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surprising, maybe, hmmmm, maybe not.

i wish it was the hardest for me.
the silly gymanstic push up plange disaster looks like a huge problem in my dept., especially considering how ridiculously sore a bunch of handstand pushups made me today. good god.

how is your "bench technique"?

i got a couple of pointers from a powerlifter friend and it made my twice a year benching sessions much more productive and easier. anyhooooooo.......nice to know you aren't superman. later. J.

kickpushcoast 08-04-2007 06:18 AM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
this depends on bodytype, for example im 6 2 225, i have done a 2.5x bw squat, come close to a 3x bw deadlift(with no gear just a belt) and benched 385 for a pause rep with no gear(so im sure i could have easily done 2x bw if i had a bench shirt, etc). my vertical was over 36 inches when i was in high school(when i was 6 0 and 155 and a high and long jumper). there is no way in hell i could come close to doing a planche push up.

some gymnast guy could bust out 5 of them in row and not come close to a 36 inch vert, but could probably come close to the lifts as gymnasts are VERY strong pound for pound. plenty of basketball players have much better verticals than 36" and couldnt come close to the lifts or the planche.

i'll say this, all the x bodyweight lifts are way easier when you dont weigh very much, same thing with planches and one arm push ups(i can do 100 push ups in a row easily and do 10 push ups with 3 45 pound plates on my back but cant do a one arm push up to save my life) and one legged squats(pistols)

i would say that if someone can bench 225 for more than 10 reps, squat 315 for ten good reps, deadlift 365 for 5 reps and clean 225 for 3-5 reps, that person is STRONG regardless of bodyweight. if you can do 12 pull ups and you weigh over 200 pounds, thats great, if you can only do 12 pull ups and you weigh 140, lol

a small guy doing bodyweight stuff, meh, who cares, a big guy lifting alot, meh who cares. when a small guy can move alot of weight, thats impressive. when a big guy can excel at bodyweight exercises and move well thats impressive too.

Subfallen 08-04-2007 08:42 AM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
Yeah, I guess a planche pushup becomes close to impossible as you get any taller than 5'8" or 5'9" or something.

mindflayer 08-04-2007 02:34 PM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
I voted for 36" vertical, but after I watched the video of that push up I want to change my vote.

Uston 08-04-2007 03:44 PM

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Seriously? I would think that the average person would at least have a fighting chance of doing the pushup with years of training. I have read that the average vert of a Division 1 men's basketball player is 28". So the average person probably is probably at 20-22". There's simply no way in hell they'd ever get to 36". They could take all the Winstol and Erythropoietin they could get and they'd still have zero chance.

Rearden 08-05-2007 05:09 PM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
Uston,

Why would EPO, a compound used by bikers to increase RBC count and thus improve aerobic prowess, do much with respect to extremely short term explosive power production?


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