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BobboFitos 07-29-2007 07:02 PM

Re: Bellagio: 10/20 deep
 
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sounds like youre trying to find a justification to fold this hand. exactly what hands can he have here that beat you?

JJ, A4s, 45s?

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i logged a decent amount of time iwht him and it's not without the realm of possibility for him to have K4s, Q4s, J4s, T4s, 94s, 84s, .. he likes suited cards. he's vpiping roughly 50 to 60%. he's wicked easy to exploit in position because he doesnt find folds pre too easily, but he plays v well postflop, so the comments that this is a 4 "alot" are solid.

pokeriseasy 07-29-2007 07:14 PM

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Shoving here is why Jimmy is rich [or at least seem so].

From the short time I played against him, he's loose but he's not THAT aggressive. I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up with a 4 here, especially if he's the last caller pre-flop and some dead moneys there. Also, do you have the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?

FWIW, I think you're toasted against Jimmy here most of time. He probably has a 4 or better at least 60% of the time. His flush draw frequency depends on whether you have the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or not. I doubt this is a Jack from him, so probably 5-7%, which I think is generous. In fact I think he probably has air more times than a Jack with the flop action thus far.

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Yea I should've put that I had black Aces.

FatalError 07-29-2007 08:04 PM

Re: Bellagio: 10/20 deep
 
jimmy is loose but he doesnt stack off light, a lot of his success comes from the illusion that he's nuts when in spots like this he almost always shows up with a big hand.

he's one of the better year round players in the game and gets lots of action from live ones.

he's probably got some kind of 4x here 60% of the time, i've never seen him take a line like this with a FD

Gary Stevenson 07-29-2007 08:08 PM

Re: Bellagio: 10/20 deep
 
i played a ton with him the last few weeks and i think you're toast most of the time. he never has JJ and i doubt he's playing a low fd like this, so it's 4x most of the time and Nfd the other few times imo. he's not going to go crazy with Jx here unless he's trying to bluff you off an overpair which i doubt he's going to be doing very often

praios 07-29-2007 08:37 PM

Re: Bellagio: 10/20 deep
 
depends on the player if to push or just fold here

luegofuego 07-29-2007 09:12 PM

Re: Bellagio: 10/20 deep
 
i prob wouldnt raise flop.

pokeriseasy 07-29-2007 09:14 PM

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i prob wouldnt raise flop.

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Really? What would be the reason?

NLSoldier 07-29-2007 09:24 PM

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i prob wouldnt raise flop.

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Really? What would be the reason?

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way ahead/way behind?

AZK 07-29-2007 09:32 PM

Re: Bellagio: 10/20 deep
 
this is a super easy fold against him.

pokeriseasy 07-29-2007 09:33 PM

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i prob wouldnt raise flop.

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Really? What would be the reason?

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way ahead/way behind?

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Not if he has a flush draw. And on this board I think the raise gets called by a lot of hands that have 2 outs.


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