Re: Spare me the \"fold PF\" sermons
 

shove flop

Re: Spare me the \"fold PF\" sermons
 

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Problem is on the turn if you get called you're behind, if you get called on the flop you're probably ahead.

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Math is awesome. If they don't have a higher diamond, you're a tiny (51%) favorite. This is why you fold preflop: you hit a freaking fantastic flop for your hand, and you're still only slightly ahead or way behind. If there's another draw in the pot you're in massive trouble, but if they both have overpairs you're in good shape. The worst would be one of them having a better draw and the other having a better pair (17% equity in this situation).


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.192% 53.74% 00.45% 532 4.50 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 45.808% 45.35% 00.45% 449 4.50 { 6d3d }

Re: Spare me the \"fold PF\" sermons
 

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Shove it. A ton of your value on these combo draws comes from your fold equity so use it.

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not saying i hate the play, but how much fold equity do you really think we have here?

Re: Spare me the \"fold PF\" sermons
 

Fist,

Good point about live play, where fold equity is so severely discounted. The reason I got involved was that the players were underbetting a lot on the post-flop streets (and paying off raises) that I thought I could capitalize on their postflop mistakes. As far as that went, the hand played out as well as I could have hoped, as the my flop call bought me two cards.

Re: Spare me the \"fold PF\" sermons
 

Someone in this pot is going to look you up...

Re: Spare me the \"fold PF\" sermons
 

shove the flop.

your hand is much better HU than multiway. with a flop shove, you can knock out better hands, better draws, and possibly take it down now.

pf is meh, i prefer it with deeper stacks. w. 100bbs, probably fold.

Re: Spare me the \"fold PF\" sermons
 

I shove here too. If EP raiser isn't total [censored] and you have somewhat tight image, I think you have some FE here. I'm putting EP raiser on JJ,TT,QQ here.

Re: Spare me the \"fold PF\" sermons
 

Fold PF.