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jkj 07-28-2007 01:49 PM

Re: TT as overpair on undercard board from hell
 
I hate it too but you are the pooh bah.

DMoogle 07-28-2007 01:50 PM

Re: TT as overpair on undercard board from hell
 
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I would be puking when he lead this turn but maybe that is just me.

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What do you put him on that beats me? Jacks or queens, but even those he's probably raising the flop. I thought he had a lone 8. I really think his bet screams he doesn't want to commit himself.

TheJared 07-28-2007 01:52 PM

Re: TT as overpair on undercard board from hell
 
I think narrowing a 42/29 range here to {QQ, JJ, an 8} is a mistake. he can pretty much have all the set, two pair combos, or a straight on this board given how deep you are. More importantly I think QQ-JJ and a 8 check this turn a lot even if he is a donk. If he has showdown value but can't really VB why is he betting here? Not just going to assume he is so dumb that he bets QQ-JJ, 8 on this turn.

TheJared 07-28-2007 01:53 PM

Re: TT as overpair on undercard board from hell
 
Is a 42/29 really playing this flop like this with JJ-QQ?

DMoogle 07-28-2007 01:59 PM

Re: TT as overpair on undercard board from hell
 
I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be slowplaying a flopped set or two pair. I don't know that he's a donk, he's just been LAG for the 30 hands that he's been at the table. His play so far has been standard, AFAIK since I haven't seen any of his hands yet. It was 42/39, not 42/29. He seems positionally aware in the 30 hands so far, so I put that into consideration.

If I'm up against a two pair, then he most likely has 86 or 56. Straight would probably be 87. But his bet sizing makes me feel that he's unsure about the strength of his hand, so I don't think he has the straight.

AAismyfriend 07-28-2007 03:27 PM

Re: TT as overpair on undercard board from hell
 
This is bad, you are crushed by his range here and he obviously never calls when behind, and often calls when he's ahead. If you think there's a good chance he just has an 8 than call the turn....I just don't get the point of shoving in this spot.

jk3a 07-28-2007 05:07 PM

Re: TT as overpair on undercard board from hell
 
i bet you got shown exactly 66/77

Teph 07-28-2007 06:15 PM

Re: TT as overpair on undercard board from hell
 
sweet aoiuefhcdishvldiuhvds what the hell

THDOCTA2 07-28-2007 06:31 PM

Re: TT as overpair on undercard board from hell
 
Bet more on the flop? but as played I think the board coordinates with such a huge portion of his range (42% vpip??) that nothing else makes sense but to fold. Knowing this however i think a turn check is in line as well but I don't mind ur bet much either..

jackflashdrive 07-28-2007 06:36 PM

Re: TT as overpair on undercard board from hell
 
Come on you can find a better spot vs. this guy. I would just fold to his turn lead.

If you really think he often has a one pair hand worse than you, then I think pushing is best because I suspect he will call with any 1 pair hand and possibly any flush draw.


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