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pfapfap 07-24-2007 10:34 PM

Re: We both saw her card!
 
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This is a standard exposed card gets replaced and becomes the burn situation.

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Um, no it's not. This is entirely room-dependant. Obviously it's not an exposed card in this room. The dealer's main error was in not doing anything when people were calling for misdeal. First off, a misdeal is never the solution here, but whenever that train of "misdeal!' starts, it's all I can do to prevent people from instamucking OOP. It's madness, I tell you! The dealer erred in not nipping that in the bud, and for not explaining to you that in that house, a sideways card is not an exposed card.

pfapfap 07-24-2007 10:35 PM

Re: We both saw her card!
 
PS, in this situation, the player really should have "encouraged" the card to land face-up, if possible. But I know that in my room, if it flies through the air and bounces all around for everybody to see but lands face-down, it plays.

I agree with this overall (tho' I'm open to good judgment declaring a card exposed), because it does open the door to a lot of "I saw xxx" in attempts to ruin somebody's hand.

andyfox 07-24-2007 11:04 PM

Re: We both saw her card!
 
You see a player's card as it's being dealt, you tell the dealer. Common courtesy--the Golden Rule.

In my casino, the card is replaced after the button has been dealt his second card and the exposed card becomes the burn card. Those shouting for a misdeal probably didn't like their hands very much.

AngusThermopyle 07-24-2007 11:35 PM

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But I know that in my room, if it flies through the air and bounces all around for everybody to see but lands face-down, it plays.


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Remind me not to play in your room.

Cornell Fiji 07-25-2007 12:40 AM

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This is a standard exposed card gets replaced and becomes the burn situation.

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But I know that in my room, if it flies through the air and bounces all around for everybody to see but lands face-down, it plays.


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What is the rationale that your poker room uses for making a player play a card that the dealer exposed and other people saw; rather than giving the player a replacement card?

This seems to be another example of the special class of poker room staff who completely lack common sense.


PS- what room do you deal at?

Dr. Detroit 07-25-2007 02:00 AM

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This is a standard exposed card gets replaced and becomes the burn situation.

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But I know that in my room, if it flies through the air and bounces all around for everybody to see but lands face-down, it plays.


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What is the rationale that your poker room uses for making a player play a card that the dealer exposed and other people saw; rather than giving the player a replacement card?

This seems to be another example of the special class of poker room staff who completely lack common sense.


PS- what room do you deal at?

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I am wondering if there was a misunderstanding. It is pretty standard that if a player is responsible for the flashing of his or her card that card must be kept and played.

bav 07-25-2007 03:42 AM

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...in my room, if it flies through the air and bounces all around for everybody to see but lands face-down, it plays.

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Pretty incredibly wrong-headed policy you've got there. GREAT place to play if you are working with a dealer and want to get a look at other players cards, though. Heck... the dealer can, according to this policy, literally take any player's card, show it to the whole table slowly and carefully, and then deal it face down to the player and the player MUST play it.

Not cool. At all. Unacceptably not cool. There some sort of gaming regulatory body that covers this card room?

frommagio 07-25-2007 05:12 AM

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...in my room, if it flies through the air and bounces all around for everybody to see but lands face-down, it plays.

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Pretty incredibly wrong-headed policy you've got there. GREAT place to play if you are working with a dealer and want to get a look at other players cards, though. Heck... the dealer can, according to this policy, literally take any player's card, show it to the whole table slowly and carefully, and then deal it face down to the player and the player MUST play it.

Not cool. At all. Unacceptably not cool. There some sort of gaming regulatory body that covers this card room?

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I don't believe him.

Name the room, pfapfap.

.CJ. 07-25-2007 06:07 AM

Re: We both saw her card!
 
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This is a standard exposed card gets replaced and becomes the burn situation.

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Um, no it's not. This is entirely room-dependant. Obviously it's not an exposed card in this room. The dealer's main error was in not doing anything when people were calling for misdeal. First off, a misdeal is never the solution here, but whenever that train of "misdeal!' starts, it's all I can do to prevent people from instamucking OOP. It's madness, I tell you! The dealer erred in not nipping that in the bud, and for not explaining to you that in that house, a sideways card is not an exposed card.

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Ya you are right, the rule at Oceans 11 (where I believe thise took place) is the card has to land face up to get replaced. Also, if a card hits a players hand and lands face up they have to keep it as well.

HOWMANY 07-25-2007 06:25 AM

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Yeah Ocean's does a lot of things that don't make sense and this rule is one of them.


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