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Im pretty sure he is talking about bicycles, not motorcycles. Im confused, but either way my comment still stands.

Re: why don\'t more bikes have kickstands?
 

But to somewhat answer the question of why people would spend that much money on a bike...

It's worth it to them.

As guids mentioned, there are obviously varying degrees of quality. Bike frames differ greatly, they're hardly all the same. Different materials provide weight and durability benefits. The construction plays a big part. The components (derailleurs, breaks, etc) again have different weight/durability/smoothness based on the material and construction.

Aerodynamics, speed, comfort, durability...

I doubt I'd ever spend more than a grand on a bike. I don't want/need to. But some people want what a more expensive bike gives them.

If you ask why people would spend several thousand on a bike, I think you have to ask why people would spend several thousand on a tv. TVs all do basically the same thing, right? And a bike is certainly a lot healthier for you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

btw, I don't think I ever used a kick stand when I was a kid, either. I was definitely one of those kids that just let my bike fall to the ground as I jumped off it and started running.

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Another serious reason is that when you have a bike that costs several hundred to several thousand dollars you aren't likely to leave it in front of the grocery store while you go shopping so there is little need for one.


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why would anyone spend several thousand on a bicycle? I mean, you can get a car for that much. Can you try to describe me me what makes a very nice bike better than just an average bike?

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It should be fairly obvious that any product that is mechanical in nature has different degrees of how well it is made.

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that's true but nobody's dropping 15k on a pair of scissors.

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The person who cuts my hair has a pair of scissors that are close to $1k (i only know cause she seriously almost had a heart attack when she dropped them once. they survived).

Are you seriously surprised that people pay good money for bicycles made to exacting standards out of expensive materials?

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A decent set of wheels alone runs several hundred dollars.

You can get a set for 99 bucks or so. Then, if you do any serious riding, the piece of [censored] spokes start breaking. Getting a fifty cent spoke replaced costs twenty bucks at my local bike shop due to the labor involved making the wheel true again.

That's just wheels.

Then you can get into shifting components, brakes, etc. etc. carbon fiber frame ftw.

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why lol @ getting a car for several thousand?

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Another serious reason is that when you have a bike that costs several hundred to several thousand dollars you aren't likely to leave it in front of the grocery store while you go shopping so there is little need for one.


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why would anyone spend several thousand on a bicycle? I mean, you can get a car for that much. Can you try to describe me me what makes a very nice bike better than just an average bike?

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Since I have more experience with mountain bikes, I will say that spending less than $1000 you will likely be disappointed if you take the sport seriously at all. Going downhill at high speeds with only front suspension and [censored] brakes gets scary quickly, while full suspension and disc brakes make it a more enjoyable experience. As you add in better components, the price increases quickly.

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why lol @ getting a car for several thousand?

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How many new cars can you get for under 5 grand?

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- i am stopped at a light when i realized that i forgot to roll my jeans up on my right leg. there's really no graceful way to do this w/o a kickstand. i wound up crouching down to do it while my bike leaned against my back.

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Using a kickstand won't make this more graceful. But it will make it more dangerous. If this happens a lot to you, wear shorts or tighter clothes.



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- a bunch of people leave their bikes in my garage. if we had kickstands they could stand up in free space, but as it is we have to lean some against the way and then lean a few more bikes on top of those bikes.

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There are many alternatives to this. The cheapest are hooks that you can put on your walls or ceilings and hang your bikes from. There are also stands and racks for this purpose. Opens up a lot of space in your garage and is a better way to store your bikes with or without a kickstand.



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- in general i find it annoying to lock up my bike on any kind of incline because sometimes the front wheel starts turning and rolling.

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How would a kickstand solve that problem? You should be locking up your front wheel anyway since that's the easiest part to steal next to your saddle.

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why lol @ getting a car for several thousand?

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How many new cars can you get for under 5 grand?

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i dont remember anyone stipulating it had to be new? A used car >>>>> a new bike.

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why lol @ getting a car for several thousand?

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How many new cars can you get for under 5 grand?

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he didn't say anything about getting a new car for several thousand, just a car.