About 20% of our network\'s traffic is US players who also like sports
 

In the $400, $500 and $1000 NL games, the % is higher. Those players do have some gamble in them.

Our game numbers are not what the larger networks offer, but our games are on the soft side.

Re: About 20% of our network\'s traffic is US players who also like sports
 

anyone tried ipoker sites? they any good?

Re: Soft games and American players?
 

"I wouldn't know how it plays higher, but at micro and smallstakes NLHE there isn't really anything between Party [and FT] "


This is so true. It irks me a little when players who don't have access to Party obsess over how 'soft' the games are there. It isn't the case anymore. NL25 6 max is soaked with set mining shortstackers, 12 tabling German rocks etc. It does get alot juicier on weekend evenings, and at peak times. But generally, even the NL10 FR tables very often average 12% of players seeing the flop. It has changed a lot in the last 6 months.

Re: Soft games and American players?
 

automaton is correct. Low stake games on Party are pretty much rock gardens from what I've seen. It's the S&G where the retards hang out.

Although it's the Germans that seem to be the 90% vpip'ers

Re: Soft games and American players?
 

IMHO The softest games are found at sites that

1) Do not support PT or HUDs
2) Shares a bankroll with a sportsbook / casino
3) Don't offer regular / great bonuses.

a little scouting around the mid size sites that fit those 3 criteria can often turn up tables most people on 2+2 dream about, but never find as they won't play without PT etc!

Mat

Re: Soft games and American players?
 

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Wait, so from what I'm gathering, there was a stereotype about Americans, and this stereotype turned out to be untrue when put to the test?

I can't believe it!

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No, it turned out to be true, american fish where unable to figure out that there where other sites than party poker

Re: Soft games and American players?
 

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Wait, so from what I'm gathering, there was a stereotype about Americans, and this stereotype turned out to be untrue when put to the test?

I can't believe it!

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No, it turned out to be true, american fish where unable to figure out that there where other sites than party poker

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Plus after Neteller kicked out all the Americans they said "OMG this is so illegal!"

Re: Soft games and American players?
 

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I have heard party has tightened up a lot since the americans have left.

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There are still a lot of loose Europeans!

Re: Soft games and American players?
 

Beware of the German shortstackers on Partypoker.

Re: Soft games and American players?
 

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Wait, so from what I'm gathering, there was a stereotype about Americans, and this stereotype turned out to be untrue when put to the test?

I can't believe it!

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No, it turned out to be true, american fish where unable to figure out that there where other sites than party poker

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Americans know perfectly well what sites exist, and how to get money in. Or they have a friend who knows. Full Tilt advertises as much as Party ever did. On network TV now!

You can contort your explanations to suit your prejudice, or you can use Occam's razor.