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PLOlover 06-29-2007 06:25 PM

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Do you know how many such breaches have occurred? Do you know how many treaties, or what proportions of treaties, were so invalidated by breaches?



Do you??? Or is this just a rhetorical device.

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the black hills in dakota or someting wasnt it in an episode of west wing.

surftheiop 06-29-2007 07:01 PM

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Well i was on the supreme court when you argued your cases

elwoodblues 06-30-2007 10:11 PM

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Well i was on the supreme court when you argued your cases


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I'm curious, then, what your opinion is on how the Nelson act might affect the current boundaries of the Objibwe reservation land in Northern Minnesota --- specifically whether the reservations have been diminished or disestablished by the act --- and to what affect, if any, that diminishment/disestablishment might have on non-indian property owners who reside within the boundaries of the current reservations? While we're at it, maybe you might give your opinion on the hunting/fishing rights of the Mille Lacs Band on Lake Mille Lacs in MN and to the extent any treaties with the US or agreements with the state of MN might affect those rights today.

John Kilduff 06-30-2007 10:26 PM

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current land ownership which rests on such unlawful legislation

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Wrong (at least in the US).

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Ah! OK, I get it; we will disregard every unilateral breach of the treaties with the native Americans, which, by the way, had no concept of land ownership, by the US government.

Do you know how many such breaches have occurred? Do you know how many treaties, or what proportions of treaties, were so invalidated by breaches?

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Midge, you've managed to greatly arouse my curiosity about something!

Regarding Australia and the Aboriginal people that inhabited that land before the English-speakers took over the huge island: How did it come about that the land of Australia passed from being inhabited entirely by Aboriginal peoples, to being owned almost entirely by white speakers of the English language? Were the Aborigines of Australia deprived of their land in similar fashion as the American Indians were deprived? Please elaborate on what transpired, and in what manner the Australian government might have compensated the Aborigines for their loss and displacement?


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