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David1234 06-27-2007 12:20 AM

Re: Cold calling
 
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What is the precise definition of a cold call?

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when someone opens a pot for a raise and you have nothing invested and u call that raise. or at least i think thats what it is

d2themfi 06-27-2007 12:35 AM

Re: Cold calling
 
Im not sure it could be a couple of different things, but in this post Im pretty sure the Op means calling an openers raise in position

Hattifnatt 06-27-2007 04:52 AM

Re: Cold calling
 
A friend of mine said that he very seldom calls a CO raise on the button (fold or 3-bet) because its a very exploitable for the blinds. Any thoughts about that?

I call in this spot all the time which might be stupid.

SEABEAST 06-27-2007 05:01 AM

Re: Cold calling
 
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A friend of mine said that he very seldom calls a CO raise on the button (fold or 3-bet) because its a very exploitable for the blinds. Any thoughts about that?

I call in this spot all the time which might be stupid.

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i definitely agree with this. it's also just really tough for the cutoff to want to take a flop with you, OOP vs a strong opponent, and sure he can know that you might be threebetting light because of your relative positions but he also knows that you know he knows this so it takes a lot of stones for him to bluff fourbet you either. in general raising CO opens from the button is a strong play with a wide range of hands, whereas calling just gives any decent reg in the blinds a chance to squeeze with top 20-30%ish of hands

soah 06-27-2007 05:10 AM

Re: Cold calling
 
if the blinds are squeezing too much you can exploit them

this msnl effort to turn poker into entirely a preflop game is kinda silly imo. you'd think it's a crime against humanity to take a flop in position with lots of money behind against a guy with a weak hand range or something.

cianosheehan 06-27-2007 05:50 AM

Re: Cold calling
 
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What is the precise definition of a cold call?

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In this thread it seems to be more about calling a pf bet when no other players have called yet?

I tend to call quite a lot pf, probably more than a lot of players here. Could be a leak, but I'd have my various reasons at the time.

I'd do things like ep bets, one or two callers, I call on sb/bb w 35s, 79s etc. Views on that approach?

My calling range is quite wide when there has been

Hensa 06-27-2007 06:38 AM

Re: Cold calling
 
So what do you do if you never cold-call with pocket pairs ?
Do you prefer to kill pocket pairs impliedd-odd ?

Hattifnatt 06-27-2007 12:21 PM

Re: Cold calling
 
Any more opinions on the subject?

wpr101 06-27-2007 12:26 PM

Re: Cold calling
 
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Any more opinions on the subject?

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How come calling in position with a hand like AJs is wrong? It's not the best hand to reraise because we cannot stand a 4b with it. Also, calling in position with suited connectors against certain opponents is certainly fine. If we are deeper it pays off. For example yesterday I had 200 BB stacks versus this huge fish and called his UTG with 9Ts. He turned out to have KK and I stacked him with a straight. If I had reraised this hand he would have 4b and I would have folded.

creedofhubris 06-27-2007 03:12 PM

Re: Cold calling
 
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Do you think it would be a big leak to never ever cold-call a single raise in a mid stakes 6-max NL except for pocket pairs, ie 3-bet or fold?

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it would make you very predictable for sure. say you call with 22 - 99 and raise or fold the rest - as soon as your opponent knows your calling range he can pretty much play perfectly against your narrow range. (except if you mix it up heavily postflop)

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The whole point of position is to mix it up postflop, float, etc.

If all you know is that he has some pocket pair 22-99 you will have no idea where you stand on any board that's not three broadway cards.


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