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TheMadHeater 06-25-2007 06:42 AM

Re: Bellagio 10/20 Hand Against TV Dude (No, not wrong forum)
 
400 on flop. The 'you don't scare me' thing is funny. He'll put you on AK for sure. Then c/rai turn cause c/c doesn't leave much behind and the jig is pretty much up by then.

fees 06-25-2007 06:56 AM

Re: Bellagio 10/20 Hand Against TV Dude (No, not wrong forum)
 
bet/shove.. realllllllllly just not deep enough to be scared espeically given his line.. x10 is very unlikely, as is 66.. and he obv knows what you have and he knows you know, so he can be caught bluffing in alot of spots.. if anything bet, bet small(to induce raise), shove...

1. bet
2. bet small to trick this donkament punk into bluffing
3. ???
4. profit

munkey 06-25-2007 07:11 AM

Re: Bellagio 10/20 Hand Against TV Dude (No, not wrong forum)
 
1.Very unlikely

cbet call a shove or bet / c/r turn AI - I rarely fold AA in a 3bet pot w/o scary board or read [~100bb deep]. Certainly not in this spot where I guess qq/KK and may be JJ are going to raise somewhere by a tourney pro???

My only concern is the preflop limp-reraise I don't like it.
But if it's 10-handed I don't really know - if you've done it before then it adds a bit of deception but I guess even tourney pros are good enough to read your hand and put you on AQ+,TT+ as most of your range - but I bet you can use this to your advantage and act like you have JJ/QQ and scared of a higher PP by betting flop checking turn e.t.c

Hector01 06-25-2007 07:55 AM

Re: Bellagio 10/20 Hand Against TV Dude (No, not wrong forum)
 
How come this is an intresting hand? We have AA vs maniac in 3betted pot with approx. 100 BB. I would never ever fold this hand on any flop vs this kind of players.

I would bet the half pot on flop, check turn and if he checks behind i would shove the river. Of course im getting in all my money at any point if he raises/bets somewhere.

How can anyone be thinking of folding AA vs this kind of players?

Jamougha 06-25-2007 08:00 AM

Re: Bellagio 10/20 Hand Against TV Dude (No, not wrong forum)
 
I don't think any line here can be that bad providing you don't fold.

Zealot 06-25-2007 08:08 AM

Re: Bellagio 10/20 Hand Against TV Dude (No, not wrong forum)
 
I dont consider folding because opponent is tricky and u will be folding the best hand too often to a lot of action.

All your limp/ reraise hands would c-bet the flop, so u should fire a standard 3/4 potsize flop bet.

Given that the board aint draw heavy, I would C/C the turn. Because C/R AI is just going to let him make a better decision. He can easily put u on AA,KK.

I would block the river 1/3 pot to induce a shove. He knows u are a solid TAG and he will recognize the block and try to represent the T tp push u off your obvious pair. Or he will call with his low pair and u still gain more value because he probably wont call the c/r AI on the turn with this holding.

cakewalk 06-25-2007 08:21 AM

Re: Bellagio 10/20 Hand Against TV Dude (No, not wrong forum)
 
we have 123bbs at the flop and AA.

don't fold. bet the flop. c/r flop, do whatever you want.

SinkRox 06-25-2007 08:23 AM

Re: Bellagio 10/20 Hand Against TV Dude (No, not wrong forum)
 
1. No.

I want to give him the chance to make the most expensive bluff/move so I go from there with bet sizes / when to c/r. Although considering he's overbet shoves lots already I bet 400$ on the flop and call his shove.

Maulik 06-25-2007 08:48 AM

Re: Bellagio 10/20 Hand Against TV Dude (No, not wrong forum)
 
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we have 123bbs at the flop and AA.

don't fold. bet the flop. c/r flop, do whatever you want.

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We already limp/raise = check/raise. You don't want to do that twice

JackAll 06-25-2007 08:50 AM

Re: Bellagio 10/20 Hand Against TV Dude (No, not wrong forum)
 
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0) Does pf suck like an inverted hurricaine ?

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Yes - severely.

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1) Wil you consider folding your aces at any point in this hand?

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Lol. Not unless villain uses his incredible forces of mind control to take control of my mind and hence force me to fold. I hate it when villains do that.

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3) If you answered "no" to the first question, explain why not

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The chance he has a T now that 2 of them are out there in a re-raised pot are pretty slim. He is more likely to have a lower overpair, missed AK/AQ, or any other pair like 44/55. This is absolute best flop we can hope for. If you fold here you should come and play against me so at least I can have your monies =P

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and explain a few ways you might proceed with the hand postflop.

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Now that we fkd up pf, we should rep AK and look bluffy with a big bet of $380 and obv call a shove, which is what he will do with his whole range.


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