Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 

joeblack: if you think im winning 40% of the time i shold call because im getting 2-1 on the call.

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 

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QQ, nice flop, i'm all in.

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Thats pretty much my thought process here as well.

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 

i guess if he never EVER shows up with worse then you can sometimes c/f. i think its closer with you raising from UTG though.

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 

so if we think we are winning why go all in? what hand will he call with?

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 

Ok, most of you advocate a fold postflop.
But one question guys, why do you call preflop then?
For which flop are you waiting for, no overcards, you beat 99-JJ + AK. Great. If you fold here, fold preflop.
Dont tell me you play qq for set value....

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 

turbojunge: 5 people have explicitly given their opinion. one person just said i was calling too much and didnt give an answer of whether i should fold/call. another personn just laughed at somebody saying fold since im only winning 40% of the time, without explaining why that thought process is wrong.

of the other 5 people, 3 said get it all in, 2 said fold.

so basically your comment about "most of you advocate a fold" is wrong. most people are saying get it all in.

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 

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joeblack: if you think im winning 40% of the time i shold call because im getting 2-1 on the call.

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The 40/60 was a rough number not literal. I think you have an excellent mathematical mind silentnoise but I don't mean those #'s to be exact.

I am positive we are behind here - fold.

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 

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Ok, most of you advocate a fold postflop.
But one question guys, why do you call preflop then?
For which flop are you waiting for, no overcards, you beat 99-JJ + AK. Great. If you fold here, fold preflop.
Dont tell me you play qq for set value....

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This is my thought process....

I would c/r the flop, willing to put it all in.

If he has KK,AA... I then type in "nh"... whine about how bad I run... yell at the cat about how I hate poker... etc.. standard stuff

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 

I don't think anybody advocated folding the flop.
Fold the turn as played because a tight player is not reraising preflop and then firing two more bullets without AA, KK, or TT in this spot.

I think the better line on the flop is leading into the raiser for half the pot (especially if you don't think he would bluff raise with AK). If he raises a lot, fold. If he raises a little or just calls then stay in and fire again.

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 

SilentNoise: Ok, maybe i miscounted the opinions.

Vee Quiva: Which part of our "read" (17/12) tells us what his 3bet range and his double barrel range is?