Re: new proposed 11 player turbo format
 

villagers already lose a lot of 11s...the sorceror just removes a lynch before must lynch

8v3
6v3
4v3

villagers get 2 mislynches

Re: new proposed 11 player turbo format
 

2 "and a half" wolves, 2 "and a half" mislynches...

I'm guessing the reason why village loses 11s is because of the no n0...

Re: new proposed 11 player turbo format
 

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2 "and a half" wolves, 2 "and a half" mislynches...

I'm guessing the reason why village loses 11s is because of the no n0...

[/ QUOTE ]You can't have half a mislynch. And for a solid wolf it's probably much easier to kill a non-power villager than it is to hit the sorc by accident.

Re: new proposed 11 player turbo format
 

Personally I waver on the current 11er format. If we assume the 9er is balanced, whether the 11er is balanced depends on whether these two factors balance out:

a) The villagers get an extra lynch

b) The wolves get a shot at the seer before he gets a peek

Re: new proposed 11 player turbo format
 

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1 Seer (with a random n0 villager peek)
7 Villagers

1 Sorceror (with a random n0 non-seer peek)
2 Wolves

[/ QUOTE ]I've decide I don't like random n0 villager peeks, because they probably are pro-village on the balance. With that rule, it's statistically much easier to give credible seer cover. Being able to ALWAYS hint a villager n0 is so much safer and easier than having to hint wolves their fair share of the time.

Re: new proposed 11 player turbo format
 

Thoughts on just making the first peek a random villager?

Re: new proposed 11 player turbo format
 

im pretty sure village wins most 11s by the way

Re: new proposed 11 player turbo format
 

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[ QUOTE ]
1 Seer (with a random n0 villager peek)
7 Villagers

1 Sorceror (with a random n0 non-seer peek)
2 Wolves

[/ QUOTE ]I've decide I don't like random n0 villager peeks, because they probably are pro-village on the balance. With that rule, it's statistically much easier to give credible seer cover. Being able to ALWAYS hint a villager n0 is so much safer and easier than having to hint wolves their fair share of the time.

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Trust me Neil. You're wrong.

Re: new proposed 11 player turbo format
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
1 Seer (with a random n0 villager peek)
7 Villagers

1 Sorceror (with a random n0 non-seer peek)
2 Wolves

[/ QUOTE ]I've decide I don't like random n0 villager peeks, because they probably are pro-village on the balance. With that rule, it's statistically much easier to give credible seer cover. Being able to ALWAYS hint a villager n0 is so much safer and easier than having to hint wolves their fair share of the time.

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Trust me Neil. You're wrong.

[/ QUOTE ]Care to be more specific? This isn't a game of werewolf you know.

Re: new proposed 11 player turbo format
 

it helps the seer a little, but it helps the wolves ALOT to know they won't be peeked until day 3