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jfish 06-08-2007 01:00 AM

Re: Live 5-5 game AK fops top pair against mega-donk and solid player.
 
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Checking flop is awful.

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are you guys crazy? this is a standard flop check.

i would probably call one time v either bets. maybe fold if he pots it.

NT! 06-08-2007 01:17 AM

Re: Live 5-5 game AK fops top pair against mega-donk and solid player.
 
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Checking flop is awful.

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are you guys crazy? this is a standard flop check.

i would probably call one time v either bets. maybe fold if he pots it.

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maybe online, but i rarely check this live vs. two players. so many donks call with TT on this flop it's not even funny.

Mangina 06-08-2007 01:42 AM

Re: Live 5-5 game AK fops top pair against mega-donk and solid player.
 
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are you guys crazy? this is a standard flop check.



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please elaborate

Eihli 06-08-2007 03:05 AM

Re: Live 5-5 game AK fops top pair against mega-donk and solid player.
 
I want to know what everyone puts the solid player on when he calls preflop.

Someone calling a raise and then a reraise from a good player out of position? And then for those of you saying I should call the turn bet, you must put him on AJ, KK, or JJ. And that, my friends, is stupid.

jfish 06-08-2007 04:47 AM

Re: Live 5-5 game AK fops top pair against mega-donk and solid player.
 
you could obviously fold to the turn bet. that is the better play if you think he is so predictable. im not saying you should look to get it in, but calling 1 street is not unreasonable.

daveT 06-08-2007 02:41 PM

Re: Live 5-5 game AK fops top pair against mega-donk and solid player.
 
Assuming that the solid player is very good. I can't think of him calling anything other than AA or KK pf, in the hopes of pushing all of his money in on the flop.

Its too perfect for him. If he actually has Aces, he has a slowplay, of he has kings, he has an easy fold.

Seems like OP is tied up either way, but you have to bet on this flop and be weary of a call.

PhatPots 06-08-2007 03:28 PM

Re: Live 5-5 game AK fops top pair against mega-donk and solid player.
 
Bet that flop, you have TPTK and you are 3 handed. This was a huge mistake. When you bet that flop, sb has to realize that crazy donk is behind him and that even if he tries to make a move, Crazy Donk might call.


If Sb makes it $120 I call and if he checks to me on a blank river I bet.


If he makes it $250 I probably shove unless Donk calls, in which case I would need to try and make a read, otherwise probably lay it down.

I just don't see what else we can do.

The only reasonable hands he can have that beat you are AQ, AA or QQ. I don't know if he will call of 1/5 of his stack preflop with AQ. He might be slowplaying AA or QQ on you, but not much you can do.

hornpout 06-08-2007 05:23 PM

Re: Live 5-5 game AK fops top pair against mega-donk and solid player.
 
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Is checking here correct?



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yes...in upsidedown land.

your bet would give solid-head two options fold or shove and you know where you stand with him. donk may get irritated and bluff his chips to you. any turn card is dangerous with donks range, so a bet seems correct.

Woolygimp 06-08-2007 05:24 PM

Re: Live 5-5 game AK fops top pair against mega-donk and solid player.
 
Villain bet $240 on the turn, Hero folded.

Villain had AQ.

Big_Jim 06-08-2007 05:31 PM

Re: Live 5-5 game AK fops top pair against mega-donk and solid player.
 
nh

Checking the flop is awful
no it isn't


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