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Get_better_Baris 05-26-2007 04:49 PM

Re: What the Hell could i have really folded this
 
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write this down: never fold top set on any street getting 19:1 all-in. you will win the hand about 6% of the time, so this rule should show a small profit.

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I disagree. Yeah you're getting good odds on the river, but look at how the hand played out. I'd say villain shows up here with QT or T8 about 98.547835% of the time.

c/f river. MAAAAYBE c/c to induce a bluff, but definitely don't bet, he folds everything worse and calls with hands that beat you.

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it always the people with like 12 posts that say stuff like this.hopfully this whole thread is leveling

felson 05-26-2007 04:55 PM

Re: What the Hell could i have really folded this
 
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i am too lazy to look it up what were the odds i had to win that hand

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well i had a little fun at your expense, but you seem like a nice guy so here is some serious advice.

there's no place you can look up the odds that you will win the hand, because that depends on how well your opponent plays. at this level, i would expect your opponent to have the following hands on the river:

-- 33,99,jj-aa,kq,kt,kj,aj,random diamonds,qj,jt,j9,qt,t8

some of those would require your opponent to play a little oddly or badly, but whatever. the point is, on the river you beat almost all his hands. same thing on the turn. so you put the money in. it's even clearer because you have like nothing left.

when i started playing live no-limit, i thought that getting stacked meant that i messed up. i brought one or two buyins, and if i lost them i went home. but actually, getting the maximum value from your hands means getting stacked sometimes. that's okay as long as you do more stacking than getting stacked. you did everything fine here.

the only thing i might change is the flop bet -- i'd bet around the pot here (20), since it will get called by some hands that might fold for 40. but turn/river are perfect. don't second-guess yourself just b/c you got unlucky this time. you had a huge hand that will usually win, so stick the money in.

felson 05-26-2007 05:07 PM

Re: What the Hell could i have really folded this
 
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write this down: never fold top set on any street getting 19:1 all-in. you will win the hand about 6% of the time, so this rule should show a small profit.

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I disagree. Yeah you're getting good odds on the river, but look at how the hand played out. I'd say villain shows up here with QT or T8 about 98.547835% of the time.

c/f river. MAAAAYBE c/c to induce a bluff, but definitely don't bet, he folds everything worse and calls with hands that beat you.

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it always the people with like 12 posts that say stuff like this.hopfully this whole thread is leveling

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obv he is joking. look at all the digits after the decimal point.

silenced 05-27-2007 04:46 AM

Re: What the Hell could i have really folded this
 
I lol'd UBER hard


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