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CaseS87 05-04-2007 06:44 PM

Re: NL25 - 55 on the 5(46) Flop R and RR after me
 
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Raise pocket pairs preflop. Period. The end. As played, I play it the same and fill up on turn/river.

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You raise 22 from the sb after everyone limps?

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If you question this, I'd suggest reading the post in the stickies regarding how to play 6-max basics. Not being confrontational, just saying it may possibly open your eyes.

PP's are so powerful when they flop sets that you make far more money in raised pots when you hit them that it makes up for when you don't.

Again, even I don't raise 22 from the SB with a table of limpers 100%, depends on table makeup, my image etc. But yes, the default play is to raise pre. Follow?

Others wanna chime in here?

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I would agree if UTG had a full stack. In this particular case I'm limping.

SirFelixCat 05-04-2007 07:23 PM

Re: NL25 - 55 on the 5(46) Flop R and RR after me
 
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Raise pocket pairs preflop. Period. The end. As played, I play it the same and fill up on turn/river.

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You raise 22 from the sb after everyone limps?

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If you question this, I'd suggest reading the post in the stickies regarding how to play 6-max basics. Not being confrontational, just saying it may possibly open your eyes.

PP's are so powerful when they flop sets that you make far more money in raised pots when you hit them that it makes up for when you don't.

Again, even I don't raise 22 from the SB with a table of limpers 100%, depends on table makeup, my image etc. But yes, the default play is to raise pre. Follow?

Others wanna chime in here?

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I would agree if UTG had a full stack. In this particular case I'm limping.

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I just noticed this was 4 handed. In that case, you bet your ass I'm raising any pair, in any position. That's for value too.

1bio 05-04-2007 07:32 PM

Re: NL25 - 55 on the 5(46) Flop R and RR after me
 
I raise just to get hands like BBs out and I'm always amazed at how many people limp/fold anyway.

twosevoff 05-04-2007 11:02 PM

Re: NL25 - 55 on the 5(46) Flop R and RR after me
 
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If you question this, I'd suggest reading the post in the stickies regarding how to play 6-max basics. Not being confrontational, just saying it may possibly open your eyes.


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Where exactly is this sticky? Not seeing it at the top of this page. Thanks

doppelganger 05-04-2007 11:33 PM

Re: NL25 - 55 on the 5(46) Flop R and RR after me
 
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...if you don't catch your set, c-bet, and then it's just a formality to c/f if you get action.

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A flopped set has roughly the same odds to improve as a flush draw (~35% of the time), so you need pretty much the same pot odds to make pushing or calling a push correct (1.86:1).

Villains will not always have the straight either. Factor in the times they are on a draw and this is an easy spot to get all of the money in. Do not fold this flop. Ever.

SirFelixCat 05-04-2007 11:39 PM

Re: NL25 - 55 on the 5(46) Flop R and RR after me
 
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If you question this, I'd suggest reading the post in the stickies regarding how to play 6-max basics. Not being confrontational, just saying it may possibly open your eyes.


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Where exactly is this sticky? Not seeing it at the top of this page. Thanks

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3rd sticky down

This is the post in particular though...

KRS ONE 05-05-2007 12:30 AM

Re: NL25 - 55 on the 5(46) Flop R and RR after me
 
The fact that 67o gets sandwhiched in this 3way all in is why you can never fold 555 on this flop.

wp.

Lurker. 05-05-2007 01:00 AM

Re: NL25 - 55 on the 5(46) Flop R and RR after me
 
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Hand looks fine, sometimes I overbet-lead flop but your line is good.

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overbet leading is ugly imo. i never see overbet bluffs, almost all overbets are for value and are very transparent. hand looks pretty std. nh hero.


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