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terp 05-03-2007 07:51 AM

Re: Calling down with bottom boat
 
i totally get your feelings here but i really wonder if he is gonna put this much in with a random 3x to fold now. you only have 150bb eff

your bet sizing is pretty weak too, btw. in limped pots i like to just go ahead and pot it. on the turn too, just pot it, or damn near. if you had bet 20 on the turn, he'd have checkraise to 60+ and this wouldn't be as damn messy. i'm not being results oriented here - i am accustomed to people calling big bets anyway (even on dry boards) and i'd like to set this up for stacks comfortably if someone else has a 3

vanHelsing 05-03-2007 07:57 AM

Re: Calling down with bottom boat
 
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i totally get your feelings here but i really wonder if he is gonna put this much in with a random 3x to fold now. you only have 150bb eff

your bet sizing is pretty weak too, btw. in limped pots i like to just go ahead and pot it. on the turn too, just pot it, or damn near. if you had bet 20 on the turn, he'd have checkraise to 60+ and this wouldn't be as damn messy. i'm not being results oriented here - i am accustomed to people calling big bets anyway (even on dry boards) and i'd like to set this up for stacks comfortably if someone else has a 3

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good point!

fitnessfreak 05-03-2007 08:11 AM

Re: Calling down with bottom boat
 
i think your flop and turn bet sizing is okay. i spose i would probably bet a bit more on the turn. as played, if you think the villian is not going to call a shove, then whats wrong with something goofy like a minraise or slightly more than minraise. he'll almost surely pay that off with any 3, especially A3.

i think at the time i would push the river, but thats coz i play too many tables and have no time to think. with the luxury of time, i think i like raising to about 155 with the intent of calling a push. if he has a bigger fullhouse then i just cry and move on.

admittedly K3 and 77 etc are in his range. but there are lots of hands you beat and it just seems too weak to just call this river imo. you are giving up too much value.

Vavavoom 05-03-2007 08:12 AM

Re: Calling down with bottom boat
 
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Please raise river....

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How much?
I'm sure he sees me as a good player.
He is probably not calling more than a minraise with a worse hand. If I minraise and he shoves, I'll hate it...

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I would raise, with it probably being a push....if he doesn't call...he won't see what u put pressure on him with....

no point minraising....

vava

vanHelsing 05-03-2007 08:44 AM

results
 
ok, thanks for the replies.
he had 53.


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