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grafyx 04-29-2007 08:45 PM

Re: mlg is aggressive, right?
 
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I thought full tilt converters didn't work, my bad, someone feel free to post a converted version

edit: or rather, a converter

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http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/

MLG 04-29-2007 08:51 PM

Re: mlg is aggressive, right?
 
my turn betting frequency definitely depends on what i think of your flop call range. How often do you slow play a J, do you float me with a pair or KQ type hand (so do i think you think im really speeding)...in general how much of your range do i think i can fold out on the turn and such. I dont want to ruin the thread here, so i wont say what my impressions were, but those i think are the questions to consider....also obviously, funkii needs to give an opinion to how wide i would be raising a limper at the time, since the wider im raising the more of a two barrel bluffing range i have.

Pudge714 04-29-2007 08:59 PM

Re: mlg is aggressive, right?
 
I think preflop is closer to a fold than it is a three bet, but I haven't played with MLG and I don't have a crazy image so I can get paid off worse here.
I sometimes raise the flop, but a call is obviously fine.
Turn is a clear call.
River is close. I think I fold here he pretty much never has a missed draw since the Ac and Qc are dead, he isn't vbetting worse so you need him to have complete air a really large percentage of the time here.

Ansky 04-29-2007 10:00 PM

Re: mlg is aggressive, right?
 
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I think preflop is closer to a fold than it is a three bet, but I haven't played with MLG and I don't have a crazy image so I can get paid off worse here.
I sometimes raise the flop, but a call is obviously fine.
Turn is a clear call.
River is close. I think I fold here he pretty much never has a missed draw since the Ac and Qc are dead, he isn't vbetting worse so you need him to have complete air a really large percentage of the time here.

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folding is not an option vs mlg (preflop that is)

wpr101 04-29-2007 11:03 PM

Re: mlg is aggressive, right?
 
Good so far. If he bets large on the river I would strongly consider folding.

locutus2002 04-30-2007 01:03 AM

Re: mlg is aggressive, right?
 
You need to pop pf, his range for raising to isolate is huge, and he's going to expect to outplay the pf limper in position.

Once u decide to float the flop then u r good to get it all-in on many turns whether u hit ur hand or not, the q is of course an easy push.

AHoboOnFire 04-30-2007 01:13 AM

Re: mlg is aggressive, right?
 
congrats, funkii, on the 11th place finish.

NHFunkii 04-30-2007 01:44 AM

Re: mlg is aggressive, right?
 
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congrats, funkii, on the 11th place finish.

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*suicide*

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You need to pop pf, his range for raising to isolate is huge, and he's going to expect to outplay the pf limper in position.

Once u decide to float the flop then u r good to get it all-in on many turns whether u hit ur hand or not, the q is of course an easy push.

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well... glad there's some disagreement...
I'm guessing you also missed that it's 9handed and utg+1 (limper) vs utg+2 (mlg), but just in case you didn't:
How wide do you think he raises there? I honestly have no clue, but my guess is something like ATs+,AJ+,88+,KQ or something. I think 3betting with AQ sucks a lot, I wouldn't even 3bet w/ AQ if he was opening here.
Why is the Q an easy push? What does that accomplish?

locutus2002 04-30-2007 02:33 AM

Re: mlg is aggressive, right?
 
The purpose of floating the flop is not to hit ur 4.5 outs or so. It's to take the pot on the turn by representing the best hand. The Q here hits alot of hands. Think about what other hands u can have here.

Ansky 04-30-2007 02:43 AM

Re: mlg is aggressive, right?
 
loc your statement makes no sense. Do you expect to fold out a bigger hand when you shove?


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