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mosdef 04-25-2007 11:00 AM

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When people believe in the virtue of the biggest mafia, then surely one will arise.

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I'm not sure if you're trying to agree with me or disagree with me or correct something I said. Can you expand, please?

pvn 04-25-2007 11:02 AM

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How can you have capitalism without the "idea of property rights"?

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Because capitalism is just the absence of regulation

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Are you saying you need a coercive monopoly regulatory body in order to have "the idea of property rights"?

BCPVP 04-25-2007 11:15 AM

Re: Somali Freedom Fighters
 
Why do you guys even bother?

mosdef 04-25-2007 11:33 AM

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Why do you guys even bother?

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The only hope of getting AC in place is to convince others that it's right. If you don't get enough people on board, they'll just make a new government at the first opportunity.

BCPVP 04-25-2007 12:59 PM

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Why do you guys even bother?

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The only hope of getting AC in place is to convince others that it's right. If you don't get enough people on board, they'll just make a new government at the first opportunity.

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There's no need to convince everyone.

TomCollins 04-25-2007 01:08 PM

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Why do you guys even bother?

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The only hope of getting AC in place is to convince others that it's right. If you don't get enough people on board, they'll just make a new government at the first opportunity.

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There's no need to convince everyone.

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To paraphrase "Thank you for Smoking".

"I'm not trying to convince you, I'm trying to convince them."

Dan. 04-25-2007 01:08 PM

Re: Somali Freedom Fighters
 
Don't you get it? Somalia is not AC because it had a government at one point that did stuff with which I disagree. So now every problem Somalia has is because of the government that used to be there, duh.

Never mind the mantra "if something is a problem, how can the absence of it not be an improvement." That's clearly not applicable here.

BCPVP 04-25-2007 01:16 PM

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Don't you get it? Somalia is not AC because it had a government at one point that did stuff with which I disagree. So now every problem Somalia has is because of the government that used to be there, duh.

Never mind the mantra "if something is a problem, how can the absence of it not be an improvement." That's clearly not applicable here.

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A knife in my chest would be a problem. Someone pulling that knife out of my chest is not much of an improvement.

pvn 04-25-2007 01:25 PM

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Don't you get it? Somalia is not AC because it had a government at one point that did stuff with which I disagree. So now every problem Somalia has is because of the government that used to be there, duh.

Never mind the mantra "if something is a problem, how can the absence of it not be an improvement." That's clearly not applicable here.

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I got shot in the head with a hollowpoint. The bullet remvoed itself. Obviously, now that the bullet is gone, I am as good as new.

EDIT: MY PONY TOO SLOW

Arnfinn Madsen 04-25-2007 01:29 PM

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A knife in my chest would be a problem. Someone pulling that knife out of my chest is not much of an improvement.

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But according to you guys the knife is at least a bit into the chest also in i.e. the US. Does your above statement mean that you think that the damages from the knife can't be healed or that it needs much longer time than in current Somalia? Today is a combination of actions yesterday and actions today and it is possible to some extent to separate what is caused by what, and I am 99,9% convinced that some of the large problems in today's Somalia are not a result of any previous government, because some things have developed so clearly in the opposite direction than the direction government took.


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