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so like four floor guys we fired over the past 2 weeks. at least three of them worked the pivotal swing shift and one of them (boba) was the best floor guy i had ever seen.

logic dictates it had to do with some floors having the holier than though attitude towards lower limit players, but i am wondering if anybody had heard anything concrete about this.

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FYP

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I think your FYP is wrong, its commonly what you hear from the local nitty types who won't play at the Bellagio because of xxxxxxxxxxx (insert convenient gripe here). There are lots of legitimate reasons to avoid the Bellagio, thats not one of them.

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If its being a nit to complain that when you walk in and ask to play $4-$8 or $8-$16 they talk to you like you are a complete bother to them. I understand you play a bit higher and they may treat you better, but the fact of the matter is there are too many places I can play poker for me to go to the B and be treated like I am an inconvenience to them.

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You have a reading comprehension problem today my man. You took a statement about limit players, and applied it to low limit games.

And yes I fully agree Bellagio staff doesn't care about low limit games, but why should they? its not their bread and butter, they toss in a few of those games to assure the low limit playing guests are happy. But again this has nothing to do with Photoc's statement which I believe was misguided (but with good intent no doubt).

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This type of shake up should also happen in a few other strip rooms. I can think of at least two to three floor staff in each of the big three rooms that need to be shown the door.

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Lets see... almost everyone at the Mirage (laziest crew I have ever seen at a busy room), but I can only think of one person at the Wynn and even then I don't think its that big of a deal - retraining would work. You already know my opinions of Venetian staff, its managerial issues not personnel that needs to be fixed first (although I assume a few heads should roll there as well, its just not the priority).

I haven't a clue what you are referring to with Mohegan Sun, unless Dave is moving over there to open the new room and Suzie is replacing him - thats just an educated guess. Speaking of which, didn't Suzie move to Ireland with Howard? OMG this would make a great NVG thread!

The only other Mohegan Sun reference I can think of is that they closed their poker room a few years ago (they are preparing to reopen now). It would surprise the hell out of me if Bellagio was thinking about closing the poker room.

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This type of shake up should also happen in a few other strip rooms. I can think of at least two to three floor staff in each of the big three rooms that need to be shown the door.

Also, keep tuned to the "B", a few other changes are on the way and may SURPRISE the heck out of 99% of you.

hint---- think mohegan sun (sp)

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Do tell...

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"And yes I fully agree Bellagio staff doesn't care about low limit games, but why should they?"


Dude, PLEASE give up being a Mod. The forum would be much better for it (IMHO).


Best Wishes

Howard

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WTF does TT's opinion on that subject have to do with him modding this forum?

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The only other Mohegan Sun reference I can think of is that they closed their poker room a few years ago (they are preparing to reopen now). It would surprise the hell out of me if Bellagio was thinking about closing the poker room.

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Mohegan Sun didn't close the poker room...Mohegan Sun poker room was forced to shut down...was that the hint?

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"And yes I fully agree Bellagio staff doesn't care about low limit games, but why should they?"


Dude, PLEASE give up being a Mod. The forum would be much better for it (IMHO).


Best Wishes

Howard

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Howard - I suggest you take the time to consider the business realities of poker room operation that balances the needs of the casino and the player carefully rather than only see the POV of the player. I can only assume that this is the case because you are attacking that statement. And that statement is also a reason why I was selected to become a mod - I see through the standard nitty gripes that many players have and can hope to point them on the right path to understanding the poker economy.

To elaborate, The Bellagio doesn't need low limit business, but it still caters a table or two for the guests who need this option. I know its something you and many others want - and rightfully so, but its obviously not a part of their master strategy that shows with their bothersome attitude (for what its worth, the higher limit games get some of the same treatment). They don't need low limit games to survive, and anyone who goes to the B to play low limit games regularly is likely doing so for non-traditional reasons - the room isn't designed for their needs. With that said I think the B does a 1/2 decent job at catering to low limit players considering its not their focus, but if I played 4/8 or 1/2 regularly I'd chose another room to play in for sure. Its interesting how 90% of the time we hear about Bellagio complaints on this forum its from low limit players, they would be much better served taking their business elsewhere since the room intentionally doesn't serve their needs - but thats not something to gripe about (unless your griping that the room is too small and need to double its size to accommodate lower limit games)

On a related note I was playing 15/30 on Monday when an old regular complained that the list was almost 20 names deep yet they didn't spread a new table. She was focused on her own needs rather than the needs of the poker room as a business - and in turn the current majority of players in the room; since the 5 diamond tournament is in town 15/30 is low on the priority list when they are holding empty tables for bigger games that are popping up left and right.

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this is beat

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TT,
I am a local that refuses to play 4-8 and 8-16 at the Bellagio because the floor treated me like dirt as well on several occasions. I don't expect them to fluff my pillow and give me a massage, but I expect people in any position at any casino to at least be courteous and not act like a complete prick. I am not sure why you think that just because the Bellagio doesn't "need" my play they are justified in having horrible customer service?
Because they do have horrible customer service (and because it is too crowded, no computerized list, and several other issues I have) - I won't play there - that doesn't make me a nit - it makes me a smart consumer.

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A rumor was spreading the other day in Bally's that Bellagio was going to drop their low limit stuff. No more 4/8, probably no 8/16, and no NL2/5. They would have NL5/10 and 15/30 as their entry level games.