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Squareview 04-18-2007 11:11 PM

Re: 3barrel bluff vs ex noose, Party2550
 
Dealt to Dylan_McKay_ [ Qh As ]
zequiche folds.
queenkris folds.
ex_Noose raises [$ 175 USD]
M4ximillion folds.
Smartguy177 calls [$ 175 USD]
Dylan_McKay_ raises [$ 775 USD]
benzidebuc folds.
ex_Noose calls [$ 625 USD]
Smartguy177 is all-In.
Dylan_McKay_ calls [$ 167.50 USD]
ex_Noose calls [$ 167.50 USD]

Flop [ Th, Ac, Qs ]
Dylan_McKay_ bets [$ 1,000 USD]
ex_Noose is all-In.
Dylan_McKay_ calls [$ 3,032.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
ex_Noose shows [ Ah, Ad ]a full house, Aces full of Tens.

TheStandman 04-19-2007 12:03 AM

Re: 3barrel bluff vs ex noose, Party2550
 
I don't like the river push. He probably can guess your hand and will call ahead and fold behind.

9cao 04-19-2007 01:54 AM

Re: 3barrel bluff vs ex noose, Party2550
 
[ QUOTE ]
I don't like the river push. He probably can guess your hand and will call ahead and fold behind.

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Fold behind? I am pretty sure he is trying to fold hands ahead of him so I hope that is a given.

Hardgrove 04-19-2007 02:23 AM

Re: 3barrel bluff vs ex noose, Party2550
 
[ QUOTE ]
HMMMM I CANT PUT U ON A AHND BIT ACES OR SEVENSZ SO I PROB WILL CALL U DOWN AND ME AND EX NSOSOSOE PLA T THE SAME

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Turn off caps lock, are you shouting or something? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I really doubt that he has an A the vast majority of the time, so I might value push Kings and Queens, maybe even Jacks (and Tens) allthough that's pretty thin.

Hardgrove 04-19-2007 02:24 AM

Re: 3barrel bluff vs ex noose, Party2550
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dealt to Dylan_McKay_ [ Qh As ]
zequiche folds.
queenkris folds.
ex_Noose raises [$ 175 USD]
M4ximillion folds.
Smartguy177 calls [$ 175 USD]
Dylan_McKay_ raises [$ 775 USD]
benzidebuc folds.
ex_Noose calls [$ 625 USD]
Smartguy177 is all-In.
Dylan_McKay_ calls [$ 167.50 USD]
ex_Noose calls [$ 167.50 USD]

Flop [ Th, Ac, Qs ]
Dylan_McKay_ bets [$ 1,000 USD]
ex_Noose is all-In.
Dylan_McKay_ calls [$ 3,032.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
ex_Noose shows [ Ah, Ad ]a full house, Aces full of Tens.

[/ QUOTE ]

What are you implying?

Hardgrove 04-19-2007 02:29 AM

Re: 3barrel bluff vs ex noose, Party2550
 
[ QUOTE ]
I don't like the river push. He probably can guess your hand and will call ahead and fold behind.

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I really doubt he is ever behind here. That would have to be some sort of sc with clubs and no 7... Which he highly doubtfully calls turn with.

What's he putting me on, since he'll call? A hand that tried to rep strength early on and then *should* be scared of the Ace which it isn't and therefore doesnt come out as any hand at all...? (that seems to me, to be the only way theres some sort of logic in your response).

Hardgrove 04-19-2007 02:30 AM

Re: 3barrel bluff vs ex noose, Party2550
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I don't like the river push. He probably can guess your hand and will call ahead and fold behind.

[/ QUOTE ]

Fold behind? I am pretty sure he is trying to fold hands ahead of him so I hope that is a given.

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought that was obvious [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Morrek 04-19-2007 06:50 AM

Re: 3barrel bluff vs ex noose, Party2550
 
I haven't played with noose in a long time but from what I hear he's pretty good. If he thinks you're over aggro I can definitely see a good player calling you here with like TT. I guess it all comes down to how he views you and that's hard to guess on a forum

fukkeneh 04-19-2007 07:15 AM

Re: 3barrel bluff vs ex noose, Party2550
 
Sometimes this can work, like when you have a good table image.

However when I try these moves when I'm losing or have no image I seem to get looked up all the time.

I think the mind set of your opponent and your image dictates if its going to be a profitable play at the time.

Jay. 04-19-2007 09:43 AM

Re: 3barrel bluff vs ex noose, Party2550
 
i think you get called here often since you said you 3 bet him preflop a lot. postflop most semi-good players ranges dont change much on this board. bet turn to sometimes fold lower overpairs or to fire again on the river, then ace hits the river and they are firing again, so had your 3 bet range preflop been tight you're more likely to get away with this.

it also helps if he views you as super sick who'll value bet shove KK here.


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