Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip
 

Next time call me, i'll knock him out [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip
 

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Why bother racing against a retard, when you know you are behind?

You can get better than 50 50 down the track.

If the hands were reversed, it is a more interesting topic, because we are +ev to call, but need to reassess that +ev with what may happen down the track.

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If the hands were reversed, it would of a no brainer. An obvious call.

Since the hands are like they are, I might even call anyway. It is 50/50.

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If the hands were reversed, it is a more interesting topic, because we are +ev to call, but need to reassess that +ev with what may happen down the track.

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It's not close if the hands are reversed. You would be passing on almost 1000 chips by folding. it would have to be a pretty amazing structure and you'd have to be mother[censored] awesome at poker to do better than that by holding on to your 4050.

Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip
 

easy fold.... if you are better than the table, he'll just bother them more than you. and that's always fun. having an annoying player lets you fly under the radar a little too. anyway you would only call if you are worried about 3-4 pother players at the table... think of course being that he'll lose the chips to them, and with a stack those guys are gonna crush you. the better you are the more likely you fold here.

Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip
 

Everyone who just thinks "oh easy fold wait for a better spot" needs to reread my posts.

Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip
 

Go for it. Normally this is a fold for me but considering the fact hes drunk and someone is gonna get all his chips you might as well take a coinflip. If you fold you're 7or8 to 1 get them. Here you're even money.

Call

Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip
 

no antes

the annoyance factor of this guy was extremely high for me, less so for everyone else-- he was in the 10 seat and I was in the 9.

If I call and win I would be chip leader, although that doesn't mean all that much at this stage of this fast tourney. If I call and lose I'm in pretty lousy shape, plus would have to deal with the extra crap this guy would be dishing out. He didn't want a call, obviously.

I didn't mention it, but the guy was crippled- had trouble walking and was using a wheelchair. He had to have security wheel him to the restroom a couple times.

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donkey punch the cripple... hehe

and ouch big star branded me for life with that comment.

Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip
 

I'm pretty partial to the "folded to the blinds = aces left in the deck" reasoning, especially if you know you're playing with dudes who love any A. Still, with no antes, this is probably too much for me to risk on a flip in relation to the blinds.

Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip
 

In a live tournament, having the table chip lead is important because people tend to be be more afraid to put their "tournament life" at risk. In addition, the fast structure favors a call for two reasons: one, you'll want the chips to gamble with other people for their stacks, and two, you won't have the time to wait for better opportunities. Put it this way, is it going to be more than 50% likely that you'll pick up a near double up some other way? I doubt it.