Re: Who DOESN’T like Super/System?
 

http://www.doylespokerroom.com/poker...ldem_poker.cfm

Re: Who DOESN’T like Super/System?
 

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http://www.doylespokerroom.com/poker...ldem_poker.cfm

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Thanks for the link but it doesnt work. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Re: Who DOESN’T like Super/System?
 

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I'm at work now. I'll fix it when I get home.

Re: Who DOESN’T like Super/System?
 

The link works, the site is presently down.

Re: Who DOESN’T like Super/System?
 

Maybe we slashdotted it? Is 2+2 such a juggernaut?

Re: Who DOESN’T like Super/System?
 

PM me. i still have the doyle's poker room copy of supersystem (at the no-limit section)...

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PM me. i still have the doyle's poker room copy of supersystem (at the no-limit section)...

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And I sort of know someone who has the NL section as a pdf...

Anyway, the link works again.

Re: Who DOESN’T like Super/System?
 

Doyle has written that these days he has to take a more conservative approach since there are so many other aggressive players out there and because so many people know that he is typically aggressive.

I think it's good to keep in mind that when SS was written, players were typically very very tight. They didn't really make moves like check-raising, even. When doyle introduced his aggressive style, it rocked their world, and the poker world as a whole.

Nowadays, poker strategies have evolved, and I think the shoving with any hand and any reasonable draw advice is flawed.

Part of my problem with it is how it would actually work in most situations.

For example:

You have AKs UTG and raise 3.5x BB. Button calls. Flop comes K92r. You are first to act. Now, is this where you shove? That would seem silly, since you are only getting called by AA, 99, AK, 22, and K9. Do you make a pot-sized bet and then shove if he comes over the top? It just seems overly donkish to me.

What about the meta-game. In other words, you push, he folds, but your aggression gets him to call you down lightly in the future. Well that is good, unless you are pushing with a draw.

It just doesn't seem smart. But maybe I don't get it.

Re: Who DOESN’T like Super/System?
 

I think it's a really good book. Maybe a little overly-simplistic this day in age, but a great (the best?) for a starter NL book.

Re: Who DOESN’T like Super/System?
 

Doyles no limit section is not as agressive as you think. he does say not to play suited conectors for a big raise and he also says to lay down your suited connctors if you dont catch a peice of the flop. He also mentions not to play marginal hands if they are unsuited such as KJ, KQ, JQ, J10 because they can get beat with better hands with better kickers like AK. HE also says not to play trash hans such as J7, K9, Qx suited, Jx suited. I believe he also gives great advice on how to play AA, KK, QQ. He also gives great advice on how to play pairs from JJ-22. The oly thing i wish is Doyle would have writen a seperate book for NO limit holdem because the section is so short only like 100 pages.