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Clarkmeister 03-26-2007 06:00 PM

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The only place that I see that had that was Cris and ABC? They opened at 126 and 127 respectively and just about everyone else opened at 128.5. The lowest I saw was 129.5 on FLA and its only at 129. Anyways, OSU total moved so much because 94% of people are on the over, and 74% on the FLA over.

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1.5 dimes at CRIS at 127.5. Dime at Wynn at 26.5 and another dime at Wynn at 27.5.

rush66 03-26-2007 06:02 PM

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Nice, I need to move to vegas.

Clarkmeister 03-26-2007 06:04 PM

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Been amazed at how much variance there's been on lines in town the whole tournament.

For the Florida/Oregon game, got over 141.5 at the Venetian the night before when it was solid 143 everywhere else and closed at 144.5.

NajdorfDefense 03-27-2007 01:14 AM

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Does revenge actually matter in the Final Four, or any playoff game in any sport for that matter?

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Sure, depending on the team and how many important players are back. It's just another way to express desire. Desire is an important component of competition.

Do you really think 100% of players on court are giving 100% on each play in 100% of all games during 100% of their entire [playoff or not] career?

Do you ever think some players/teams are overconfident?
Do some teams seem to always want to cover the spread, for whatever reason, not letting up, or not subbing, or scoring rather than run out clock, etc? [or Total, etc]

It's just one of many important factors.

NajdorfDefense 03-27-2007 01:14 AM

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Nice, I need to move to vegas.

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Why not just call CRIS like everyone else?

CrushinFelt 03-27-2007 01:24 AM

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This is more of a general question. How much of a factor should the possibility of overtime play when betting the over/under?

iggymcfly 03-27-2007 04:16 AM

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I don't know Najdorf, I usually put more stock into motivation than the average person, but I honestly don't think it matters at all when you're in the Final Four. I think that yes, every player playing in the Final Four this weekend will be putting in 100% effort on every play. Florida's faced way too many close calls to get overconfident against a team as good as UCLA, and after all they've done to try to get back-to-back titles (foregoing millions in the case of Noah), there's no way they'd be lacking motivation.

If you're just using the hypothetical of "any playoff game" to say that an NBA team up 2-0 in a 1/8 series might not be fully motivated or that it was a factor in whether Kansas covered the spread against Niagara, I'd totally agree with you, but discussing it in a Final Four game where the spread is < 5 seems utterly meaningless to me.

rush66 03-27-2007 09:04 AM

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Nice, I need to move to vegas.

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Why not just call CRIS like everyone else?

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That is what I do, but the numbers seem to last longer on the land casinos. People have been saying that some of the vegas casinos have totals that have been 3 points lower at gametime than the offshore books.

CrushinFelt 03-27-2007 02:28 PM

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This is more of a general question. How much of a factor should the possibility of overtime play when betting the over/under?

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bump?

.Alex. 03-29-2007 07:37 AM

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I admit to not understanding the Florida line. Help explain to my ignorant self. UCLA catching 2.5 vs. Kansas on a pseudo home court that had to be worth a point and a half. Call it 4 on a truly neutral court.

Now they travel 3 time zones to Atlanta, and with Carolina out, it should be a pretty big Florida fan base. Pseudo home game. And the spread is sitting at 3? How is it lower. I'm guessing FLA would've been favored by a point or two vs. KU.

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You have to take into account that UCLA's team value went up by beating KU.


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