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basically there was something like 92 million in chips in play at the main event last year when there should have only been 88 at the main event last year(im just making up numbers but its something like that.)

i dont think anyone has figured out what the source of the extra chips was. it could have been a massive error in a color up or cheating.


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I think it was Poker News that had the 3 part series out on this, but the big news is they finally put the 4th article out within the last couple of weeks. It confirmed their theory on when and how the extra chips got introduced, it was in the color up with 27 players remaining. They also said Kevin Donelly was one of two the players who receieved the chips. IIRC he lost them minutes afterward to AC in a AA v. KK all-in PF showdown. They did not reveal who the other player was, but the Poker News Columnist had apparently heard the name and thought it was suspect because he was so short at the time that it would have been too obvious if he suddenly got a boatload of extra chips.

Sorry I don't have the link for you right now, but do a search and I think you will find it. It was a very interesting read.

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So they say. Notice they are also taking steps to make it more difficult for people to bring in chips from other tournaments.

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basically there was something like 92 million in chips in play at the main event last year when there should have only been 88 at the main event last year(im just making up numbers but its something like that.)

i dont think anyone has figured out what the source of the extra chips was. it could have been a massive error in a color up or cheating.


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I think it was Poker News that had the 3 part series out on this, but the big news is they finally put the 4th article out within the last couple of weeks. It confirmed their theory on when and how the extra chips got introduced, it was in the color up with 27 players remaining. They also said Kevin Donelly was one of two the players who receieved the chips. IIRC he lost them minutes afterward to AC in a AA v. KK all-in PF showdown. They did not reveal who the other player was, but the Poker News Columnist had apparently heard the name and thought it was suspect because he was so short at the time that it would have been too obvious if he suddenly got a boatload of extra chips.


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was it this guy?

http://www.kabala.com/img/michael4.JPG

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pocket a bunch of chips that cost 67 cents per chips,

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The cost to the casino is not the issue. It's the value of the chip on the table in relation to the players cost to obtain them. Which is what I think you meant.

The price to the player would be $1000 unless they satellited in. If so, then they could cripple themselves intentionally (pocketing chips) and put them in play when they move at the main event at a lower cost.

If I remember correctly, the gift shop was selling exact duplicates of the actual chips in play.

chip duplicating is difficult and not cheap to do. so i doubt anyone duped the chips illegitimately.

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If I remember correctly, the gift shop was selling exact duplicates of the actual chips in play.


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This is a joke, right? My sarcasm detector is in the shop.

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i hear a lot of the poker community dislike Men the master because of concerns (some relevant like a pupil soft playing him at 7 stud in 05 or 06 cant remember but watched) of soft play and chip sheating schemes...he was caught with extra chips in one of his rooms after a fire scare at a tourney..after play had ended for the day.. would love to hear more on this topic

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i hear a lot of the poker community dislike Men the master because of concerns (some relevant like a pupil soft playing him at 7 stud in 05 or 06 cant remember but watched) of soft play and chip sheating schemes...he was caught with extra chips in one of his rooms after a fire scare at a tourney..after play had ended for the day.. would love to hear more on this topic

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There is plenty of dirt on Men The Master across the web.

A bit of nifty googling should give you plenty of bed-time reading on the subject...

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Forever, in a WSOP event, you got chips equal in value to the price of the buyin. The cheapest events years ago, other than the dealers event and the ladies only event, were $1500 buyin events. In recent years, $1000 buyin open events have been added. Last year, they decided that with a minimum starting blind of 25,25, these $1000 buyin events started you out too short-stacked. So, they gave players 1500 in chips. But, if you do that, somebody can enter a $1000 buyin event, pocket a bunch of chips that cost 67 cents per chips, and add those chips to their stack in a later event, where chips are worth 1 dollar apiece.

They are quite possibly doubling the starting stack in every event this year so they can offer more play in all events without having to change the chip:dollar ratio in any event as compared to other events.

But, all of this is pure guesswork on my part.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

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I would trust your "guesses" a lot more than most of these guys' "facts"