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NoahSD 01-27-2007 02:43 PM

Re: What did I tell you about cold calling my reraises?
 
Folding seems silly because it's so hard for him to have you beat on this board. Plus, he minraised, so folding is against everything I believe in.

Raising seems silly because he'll just put you on QQ.

So, call flop planning to call down. I check back if he checks any turn card.

Bakes 01-27-2007 02:46 PM

Re: What did I tell you about cold calling my reraises?
 
"has played well in every hand he's played in."

I fold. he doesn't expect us to fold here, he c/minraised. Most people who play well don't c/mr a worse jack here for value in a reraised pot, its kinda suicide. I think he has JJ+ here all day.

RichC. 01-27-2007 02:52 PM

Re: What did I tell you about cold calling my reraises?
 
he can c/mr a pot here if he thinks you missed too, which you didnt. LAGs will make this play, though LOL at his MR. He will also do this with a worse J too, especially if he puts you on AK/AQ or an under pair.

registrar 01-27-2007 02:56 PM

Re: What did I tell you about cold calling my reraises?
 
[ QUOTE ]
he can c/mr a pot here if he thinks you missed too, which you didnt. LAGs will make this play, though LOL at his MR. He will also do this with a worse J too, especially if he puts you on AK/AQ or an under pair.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is a fair point in an EPT sat. Minraise can mean absolutely anything.

Bakes 01-27-2007 02:57 PM

Re: What did I tell you about cold calling my reraises?
 
i donno. i just dont think a lag who has played "decently" cold calls any worse J's here. the only J i can possibly seeing him having here is the same as yours.

registrar 01-27-2007 03:24 PM

Re: What did I tell you about cold calling my reraises?
 
Bakes,

(laggy?) button three bets laggy CO and then c-bets flop.

This is what he sees.

BB min-raises and button folds a lot of his range. He's considering folding AJo for a start.

I really don't see that we can fold just because we've been &&*^&*%$! checkminraised on a paired flop but raising is not good. So call. Check his database and see what he does on the turn.

mlagoo 01-27-2007 03:36 PM

Re: What did I tell you about cold calling my reraises?
 
call down for sure, this one is a lot easier than the other. his range of hands that are beating you is like JJ-QQ exactly, and QQ is less likely (most people 4bet here with QQ), and there are plenty of hands he's incorrectly playing this way.

Nivek24 01-27-2007 03:41 PM

Re: What did I tell you about cold calling my reraises?
 
you should never have played this hand with a reraise. Just call or fold. I think folding is your best option before the flop. if your going to potsize bet after the flop its as a defensive bet to find out if your hand is good or not. a better bet would've been about half the pot as a continuation bet or maybe a probe bet of about 100. but in your sutuation its a deffinate fold to me.

Bakes 01-27-2007 03:45 PM

Re: What did I tell you about cold calling my reraises?
 
also i think your decision has to be made here on the flop. calling to see a turn is bad, either we are calling all the way down or we should fold now.

Bakes 01-27-2007 03:47 PM

Re: What did I tell you about cold calling my reraises?
 
also i dont see why he couldnt have AA or KK here.


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