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Photoc 01-06-2007 03:36 AM

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Actually, you are missinformed about Foxwoods being pooled because of Mohegan. Foxwoods has pooled for 12 years with any and all dealers. Mohegan was keep your own up to the day they closed.

MrDannimal 01-06-2007 03:46 AM

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Detroit pools, and the union(s) won't let them switch to dealers keeping their own.

AKQJ10 01-06-2007 03:53 AM

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Thanks, I stand corrected.

DrewOnTilt 01-06-2007 04:26 AM

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Detroit pools, and the union(s) won't let them switch to dealers keeping their own.

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That makes no sense. If the union represents the best interest of its members, it seems that the union would push for the elimination of tip pooling, at least for poker dealers.

tom10167 01-06-2007 04:36 AM

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First off, no one keeps this kind of data anywhere. It just doesn't exist and never will.

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I'm sure Foxwoods has a very good idea how much rake per hour they get out of a table. Even on time-charged games, the Shufflemaster might keep records.

Now getting that data from them would be a much thornier question.

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I can tell you right now that nobody has any idea.

RR 01-06-2007 04:39 AM

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First off, no one keeps this kind of data anywhere. It just doesn't exist and never will.

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I'm sure Foxwoods has a very good idea how much rake per hour they get out of a table. Even on time-charged games, the Shufflemaster might keep records.

Now getting that data from them would be a much thornier question.

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I can tell you right now that nobody has any idea.

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Unless Foxwoods is managed worse than I imagined you are wrong. I have seen figures for what different games palces I have worked drop. No, I won't be sharing those, but casinos enjoy making money and they are always looking for ways to make more money.

FCBLComish 01-06-2007 06:51 AM

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First off, no one keeps this kind of data anywhere. It just doesn't exist and never will.

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I'm sure Foxwoods has a very good idea how much rake per hour they get out of a table. Even on time-charged games, the Shufflemaster might keep records.

Now getting that data from them would be a much thornier question.

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I can tell you right now that nobody has any idea.

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Unless Foxwoods is managed worse than I imagined you are wrong. I have seen figures for what different games palces I have worked drop. No, I won't be sharing those, but casinos enjoy making money and they are always looking for ways to make more money.

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Randy,

To the best of my knowledge, Foxwoods IS managed very poorly. I would not be surprised at anything that comes out of there.

tom10167 01-06-2007 07:06 AM

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First off, no one keeps this kind of data anywhere. It just doesn't exist and never will.

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I'm sure Foxwoods has a very good idea how much rake per hour they get out of a table. Even on time-charged games, the Shufflemaster might keep records.

Now getting that data from them would be a much thornier question.

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I can tell you right now that nobody has any idea.

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Unless Foxwoods is managed worse than I imagined you are wrong. I have seen figures for what different games palces I have worked drop. No, I won't be sharing those, but casinos enjoy making money and they are always looking for ways to make more money.

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Well, I could be wrong then, but I feel fairly confident in my assumption for the poker room. Table games I wouldn't doubt a second, but the ethernet ports are all empty on every shuffler I've seen, and I've seen a bunch.(We look under the tables to try and replug the shufflers in with our feet.)

Also: When getting evals dealer speed is based on how fast you are dealing when a floor watches and counts in a time frame.

Barry 01-06-2007 10:36 AM

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Unless Foxwoods is managed worse than I imagined you are wrong.

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It really is. There are quite a few folks that can hardly wait until the "place down the street" reopens it's room. Of course, it wasn't run very well either, but the whole place is much nicer.

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To whomever mentioned Kathy Raymond: She's now at the Venetian in LV, last I heard.


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But for how much longer. I'm sure the room isn't living up to anyone's expectation.

psandman 01-06-2007 11:26 AM

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Detroit pools, and the union(s) won't let them switch to dealers keeping their own.

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That makes no sense. If the union represents the best interest of its members, it seems that the union would push for the elimination of tip pooling, at least for poker dealers.

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Not if your pooling with the pit. In which case if keep your own benefits the poker dealers it would be against the interestes of the union members who deal in the pits to allow the Poker dealers to keep their own.


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