Re: $22s - Simple PF question. 99 after a limper with 19xBBs.
 

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I might be very wrong here but shouldnt we/villain have atleast 20xBBs to call for set value?

I'm always lost with this...

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I don't think this is necessarily true. 20x seems a little high to me.

Re: $22s - Simple PF question. 99 after a limper with 19xBBs.
 

Yeah I think that's pretty standard. My question was more about limping TT really.

Re: $22s - Simple PF question. 99 after a limper with 19xBBs.
 

t400. use ninja if reraised. if called push most flops.

Re: $22s - Simple PF question. 99 after a limper with 19xBBs.
 

I raise to 350 to isolate.

Re: $22s - Simple PF question. 99 after a limper with 19xBBs.
 

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yeah but 99 has more then set value to it, you could flop an overpair. I think I'm folding 88 here.

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You really fold 88 in this spot? Wow, I guess I'm a loose maniac donkey. I raise to 400 with 99 and probably call with 88. I would not even consider folding 66+ there.

Re: $22s - Simple PF question. 99 after a limper with 19xBBs.
 

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yeah but 99 has more then set value to it, you could flop an overpair. I think I'm folding 88 here.

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You really fold 88 in this spot? Wow, I guess I'm a loose maniac donkey. I raise to 400 with 99 and probably call with 88. I would not even consider folding 66+ there.

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or im a massive nit. I'm just trying to conserve as many chips for push/fold at this point. I just think 88 is not strong enough.

Re: $22s - Simple PF question. 99 after a limper with 19xBBs.
 

If you limp TT you'll be making money off me, because I'll assume my 88 is still good and push over you. On the other hand if I don't have 88 but QJo then you may have needlessly left me in the pot. And I think the latter situation would happen more than the former (though you'll make more money off me with my 88 than I'll make if I hit my QJ).

I think TT is too good a hand to want to play multiway. I'd raise from any position. Early position I'd raise 3xbb and fold to a push. Later position I'd raise 4-5BB and call a push.