Re: Why am I C-betting this again? (Theory, long)
 

oh my, I can see what I'm doing this weekend now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Why am I C-betting this again? (Theory, long)
 

So you're saying I shouldn't bet everytime with JJ OOP in a RR Pot when the flop is K89r. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Excellent post bilbo, it's a shame more posters haven't grasped this concept yet.

Re: Why am I C-betting this again? (Theory, long)
 

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get that cat back in the bag plz....

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Ach, this is all stuff we ("we" being mostly myself and the posters I credit above) point out in bits and pieces in lots of hand critique posts, anyway.

Another thing I'd like to point out is that if you don't C-bet all the time, you make it very hard for players to take optimal lines against you with specific hands, and you greatly reduce the implied odds you are giving opponents (if the flop gets checked through, it's pretty hard to stack someone on two streets unless it's a re-raised pot).

For example, if a player knows you won't always c-bet, he can't always check-raise with sets and big draws -- he'll have to bet them at least sometimes. But that means he'll have to bet some other hands, too, to balance it out, and there are a lot of marginal hands that he really won't want to bet because he'll only get called by better hands (or he'll get floated and won't like many turn cards).

So simply the fact that you don't always C-bet makes your opponents decisions harder (especially when they are OOP) if they know this, regardless of what they have, or how the flop comes.

Re: Why am I C-betting this again? (Theory, long)
 

great article.

on your bit about when to c-bet with a draw, I am struggling to understand from what you have written what type of draw you WOULDN'T c-bet with.

Paul.

Re: Why am I C-betting this again? (Theory, long)
 

this is one the best posts i have read. THX

Re: Why am I C-betting this again? (Theory, long)
 

bilbo,

What is your pfr and how many tables do you play?

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bilbo,

What is your pfr and how many tables do you play?

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About 18-20. About 4.

Re: Why am I C-betting this again? (Theory, long)
 

great post. thx

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great post. thx

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Re: Why am I C-betting this again? (Theory, long)
 

I got a bit excited when I saw dbitel's post, but realized that this thread is really old!

Bilbo, pretty good stuff. But it is probably easier to explain in the language of equity. Maybe an ambitious project for an up and coming ssnler!