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FortunaMaximus 11-04-2006 09:36 AM

Re: It is logically impossible for an omniscient, omnipotent god to ..
 
OP,

Omniscience and omnipotence is not grounds to rule out free will. It is possible for such an entity to set conditions in which the variables can choose their own paths. The choices you make shape your worldview. Free will is having the ability to shape worldviews.

It would seem there is a blur in many thinkers about the distinctions between predestination and free will.

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So in my mind the existence of a benevolent loving God wouldn't make a being with free-will illogical - it would make one a necessity.

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Exactly. He can only be benevolent if he allows you to make your own choices.

CityFan 11-04-2006 09:59 AM

Re: It is logically impossible for an omniscient, omnipotent god to ..
 
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You forgot this in your poll:

I am an atheist/agnostic and any worldview I can even articulate is utterly, hopelessly, irredeemably unintelligible and indefensible.

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Btw, why have you not ticked "I am a christian/jew/muslim and I am incapable of rational thought."?

Because that is precisely what you keep insisting on in your posts.

NotReady 11-04-2006 10:50 AM

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Btw, why have you not ticked "I am a christian/jew/muslim and I am incapable of rational thought."?


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I'm waiting for the new poll including my suggestion with your vote.

thylacine 11-04-2006 12:24 PM

Re: It is logically impossible for an omniscient, omnipotent god to ..
 
Thread summary so far:

No-one has raised any serious objections to my argument.

No-one has raised any serious objections to my poll.

FortunaMaximus 11-04-2006 12:29 PM

Re: It is logically impossible for an omniscient, omnipotent god to ..
 
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Thread summary so far:

No-one has raised any serious objections to my argument.

No-one has raised any serious objections to my poll.

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Good read there. Got 'em blinkers on, huh?

thylacine 11-04-2006 12:40 PM

Re: It is logically impossible for an omniscient, omnipotent god to ..
 
FortunaMaximus says:

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Thread summary so far:

No-one has raised any serious objections to my argument.

No-one has raised any serious objections to my poll.

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Good read there. Got 'em blinkers on, huh?

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One problem you have "FortunaMaximus" is that you seem unable to distinguish between `If A Then B' and `If B Then A'.

DougShrapnel 11-04-2006 12:47 PM

Re: It is logically impossible for an omniscient, omnipotent god to ..
 
Please add the option "All hail the mighty collapser of wave functions!"

thylacine 11-04-2006 12:59 PM

Re: It is logically impossible for an omniscient, omnipotent god to ..
 
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Please add the option "All hail the mighty collapser of wave functions!"

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LOL

carlo 11-04-2006 03:02 PM

Re: It is logically impossible for an omniscient, omnipotent god to ....
 
Your attributes of "G" only refer to power. Power and some say "evil" is the forcing one's personality on another. You posit "evil" and say this is "good". Love, virtue,grace, and even intelligence is left out of your equation. I deny your premise.

Yes, there are Christians in philosophy and theology and in everyday life who have no problem with "free will"(read Catholic Church and others).

Your one-sided behemoth needs a little love.

madnak 11-04-2006 03:08 PM

Re: It is logically impossible for an omniscient, omnipotent god to ..
 
You are wrong. Even the atheists are saying so. Pick up a clue, stop insulting everyone, and approach the points.


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