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Victor 10-27-2006 02:05 AM

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I think its about equal with basketball.

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you simply cant say this without playing them.

ThaSaltCracka 10-27-2006 02:11 AM

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I don't see how its comparable with football. There aren't any plays that need to be called, nor are there anywhere near as many substitutions. Basketball is fairly close conceptually since all players play both offense and defense, and there is a ton of improvising. So to me, it seems closer to basketball.

Victor 10-27-2006 03:08 AM

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the problem with your thinking is that you automatically assume that calling and designing plays is the biggest challenge a coach faces. fwiw, much of a basketball game is scripted.

think about this, a soccer coach must make his team execute plays, without ever calling them.

New001 10-27-2006 03:10 AM

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An example that most likely suffers from a small sample size but has been impressive nonetheless is Aston Villa from last year to this year.

Aces McGee 10-27-2006 09:45 AM

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much of a basketball game is scripted.


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Eh, not really. The basic set is scripted, or maybe the first option or two, but -- particularly at the higher levels -- basketball is very similar to soccer in that a coach installs a style of play and relies on the players to play within it.

-McGee

SuperUberBob 10-27-2006 09:57 AM

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ThaSaltCracka 10-27-2006 11:01 AM

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the problem with your thinking is that you automatically assume that calling and designing plays is the biggest challenge a coach faces

[/ QUOTE ] for a football coach, it is one of the biggest challenges.

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fwiw, much of a basketball game is scripted.

[/ QUOTE ] Replace basketball with football. The good coaches in football almost always know what plays they are calling on their first offensive series. Basketball is much more like soccer. There are some set plays, but ultimately its about improvising and gettting your players to play together in your system. Also, look at soccer and basketball teams. They generally play the coachs style. Think of Flip, D'Antoni, Larry Brown, Phil Jackson, then move onto soccer and think of Arsene Wegner. They have their own playing style that they want their team to play.


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