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tcorbin16 08-27-2006 01:53 AM

Re: AC 10-25 River Surprise
 
I agree with mikech....

also on another note: chezwiz your avatar is very distracting.

chezwiz75 08-27-2006 02:00 AM

Re: AC 10-25 River Surprise
 
what did you say I was looking at boobies

flawless_victory 08-27-2006 03:46 AM

Re: AC 10-25 River Surprise
 
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I was not too familiar with villain, but I can't imagine he would make this move as a bluff practically ever. Are there enough hands that a tight conservative player will push for value here that I beat (weaker 10s I suppose) that can justify this call? Any other thoughts about my line are appreciated.

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sounds like u understand the situation. hes not bluffing but might be VBing the worst hand.
personally, i dont think 10:3 is enough to call here, guy like this pushes river after u bet all streets OOP and deep stacked, he usually has QQ.

DeMaci 08-27-2006 03:46 AM

Re: AC 10-25 River Surprise
 
If he reraises you fold, is that difficult lol

mmcd 08-27-2006 04:59 AM

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If he reraises you fold, is that difficult lol

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But that way you can't stack AT.

TStoneMBD 08-27-2006 06:53 AM

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If he reraises you fold, is that difficult lol

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live play plays alot different than online play and people are far more passive. sometimes i see many of you say some scenarios are insta-calls but in live play many of them are insta-folds. its just the dynamics between the two games.

if i was in this hand id have to think about this river. whether i call or not is largely going to depend on whether i think villain puts me on AA-KK-AQ after betting 3 streets and whether hed value-push a smaller ten on this river or not. generally though, against the described player i think you probably have to call.

catalyst 08-27-2006 07:04 AM

Re: AC 10-25 River Surprise
 
your avatar is irritating

flawless_victory 08-27-2006 07:07 AM

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I was not too familiar with villain, but I can't imagine he would make this move as a bluff practically ever. Are there enough hands that a tight conservative player will push for value here that I beat (weaker 10s I suppose) that can justify this call? Any other thoughts about my line are appreciated.

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sounds like u understand the situation. hes not bluffing but might be VBing the worst hand.
personally, i dont think 10:3 is enough to call here, guy like this pushes river after u bet all streets OOP and deep stacked, he usually has QQ.

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after rereading the post sober i think u gotta call here, but i really dont like these bet sizes, esp the river bet. u really put yourself in this tricky spot.

SA125 08-27-2006 08:50 AM

Re: AC 10-25 River Surprise
 
He's gone to showdown light but this is his first aggression. Yikes. Question I have is the size of your bets and were they related to your image. Is pot control an issue there or were you making the same size bets when you missed with AK? Did you get looked up empty?

All your bets were >1/2 but <3/4's. Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't it better to go between at least 3/4's and pot there?

bkholdem 08-27-2006 09:33 AM

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I agree with mikech....

also on another note: chezwiz your avatar is very distracting.

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was that an observation or a complaint?


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