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admiralfluff 08-21-2006 03:10 PM

Re: 15/30 66 hand
 
I think we're ahead here so often, that we have to bet this turn, and I don't really mind calling down the c/r against many of these guys. More specific reads could sway me to a check through, but assuming he peels the flop almost always, we have to bet. Am I crazy, or just stupid?

Moneyline 08-21-2006 03:21 PM

Re: 15/30 66 hand
 
I think you should bet and call a raise. SB could be peeling with all sorts of hands on this fairly dry flop, and there's a good chance he'll either fold or take a shot at you with a worse hand. Checking might induce a river bluff, but I think you'll be missing out on a lot of value by not betting.

Just my opinion...

Hoi Polloi 08-21-2006 03:21 PM

Re: 15/30 66 hand
 
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If you cant b/f ---> check through and call trhe river.

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I agree. You can't put another bet in unless you're willing to fold at least some of the time. You have to have a read to fold to or call his raise so don't give him the opportunity without one. I'd take it to SD as cheaply as I could.

danzasmack 08-21-2006 03:24 PM

Re: 15/30 66 hand
 
Does the Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the turn change anyone's answer (action if it's a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] not a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img])

admiralfluff 08-21-2006 03:25 PM

Re: 15/30 66 hand
 
I'd be even more inlcined to bet, and fold to a c/r.

Hoi Polloi 08-22-2006 01:19 PM

Re: 15/30 66 hand
 
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Does the Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the turn change anyone's answer (action if it's a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] not a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img])

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With no read, I'm more inclined to value bet as there are fewer ways I'm beat.

StupidAcesSigh 08-22-2006 01:33 PM

Re: 15/30 66 hand
 
Not only are you ahead ALOT here, but also if you are beat you often have a ton of outs. It is very rare for your opponent to have both a better made hand and draw than you. Also, against a flush you have hidden outs (the nines).

Keepitsimple 08-22-2006 02:40 PM

Re: 15/30 66 hand
 
bet/call

MATT111 08-22-2006 04:47 PM

Re: 15/30 66 hand
 
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Not only are you ahead ALOT here, but also if you are beat you often have a ton of outs. It is very rare for your opponent to have both a better made hand and draw than you. Also, against a flush you have hidden outs (the nines).

[/ QUOTE ]

The pot is small and there is a decent chance hero is the one who is drawing. A LAG just calling a paired flop is somewhat suspicious. Also the turn card sucks. There is nothing wrong with inducing a bluff here.

akvsaq 08-23-2006 03:35 AM

Re: 15/30 66 hand
 
The way I handle these types of situations is:

Vs someone who is predictable or over-aggressive, I bet/call, otherwise if I'm not at all sure I will check behind.


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