Re: tough river spot vs tough 2p2er
 

there's more here than apparent on first glance. i think all three hands are a reluctant fold - IMO, they're essentially equal here, with this action. if you look at the board (as i'm sure you're implying from this question), if you held 10c8c the only likely flushes he could have would be the nut flush, Kc9c or AcKc (both of which he would have most def bet the flop), 6c5c (of which he would have definitely bet), or 4c5c (same). Sets and two pair would have also bet the flop, as would overpairs. So you're either up against AcXc, or Ac10x, or a bluff. His hand range is very slim, for sure.

i don't think he's calling the turn to bluff the river; i don't know if i've played with him, but i assume he'd raise the turn if he were bluffing - mainly to define your hand. there's no way he knows that you don't have a flush yourself. so in the end, i'd give him credit for the one or two hands he could possibly have that wins, especially since you guys don't get too out of line with one another.

to sum it up, when he raises the river, you're f*cked

Re: tough river spot vs tough 2p2er
 

if this was a bluff, it was a pretty [censored] awesome job.

Re: tough river spot vs tough 2p2er
 

I don't know, I don't think he will check nutflush on the flop at all often since that's the only point in the hand where the hand is real good. He would definately not check ATcc, wheras AcQx, AcJx and AcTx is very possible.

This hand troubles me, I'm really wondering whether he would ever push this river with AcTx (e.g without a flush), since that obviously changes the answer of your question into a call with the flush and while still a fold with the other hands. This also comes down to a lot what he thinks you'll be leading this river with (with the hand played as it was), and what you're capable calling with.

I mean we're getting into very awkward territory if he's trying to somehow push for value with a straight, and you would think you're basically calling a bluff when you have a flush.

Pushing river with straight seems veeeeeeeeeeery awkward, (and pretty bad to me), but I don't know your history.

This seems like a fold with all three to me, but I really hate mixing your play up with a check with nutflush on the flop here; checking with AQ, AJ (even with Ac of course) some of the time is just fine by me, but checking Axcc is pushing it imo.

Re: tough river spot vs tough 2p2er
 

seems like a pretty easy fold. He doesn't have AA.

Re: tough river spot vs tough 2p2er
 

I'd say this is an easy fold.

Kirk

Re: tough river spot vs tough 2p2er
 

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seems like a pretty easy fold. He doesn't have AA.

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Yea, k.


This is a really great play from villian, and it's very hard to fold this. I really don't think I could, especially within the short time frame. If I call, I expect to see a flush, if I fold, I expect to see the lone Ac, lol.

Re: tough river spot vs tough 2p2er
 

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I'd say this is an easy fold.

Kirk

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i think its much closer than that. the biggest issue imo is whether or not you think whitelime will make a big play against his 'friend'

Re: tough river spot vs tough 2p2er
 

I would almost always bet this flop 3/4 pot because it has so many draws. Fold river to probable flush.

Re: tough river spot vs tough 2p2er
 

pretty sure he was looking to chk/raise a c-bet

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pretty sure he was looking to chk/raise a c-bet

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duh i think he knows that