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RollinHand 05-17-2006 08:50 PM

Re: Pocket Queens in Vegas
 
Yes, scratch that. How about 22-AA, do we bet any of those hands on the flop?

Big_Jim 05-17-2006 09:03 PM

Re: Pocket Queens in Vegas
 
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Yes, scratch that. How about 22-AA, do we bet any of those hands on the flop?

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Betting the lower pairs is much better, because it's no longer a WA/WB spot, since overcards can come to beat us, and the lower the pair, the more likely it is that we fold out a better hand.

I think a bet with JJ- is necessary, and it's close with JJ.

Obviously, you should bet your airball.

crackhead 05-17-2006 09:05 PM

Re: Pocket Queens in Vegas
 
since the board is not draw heavy, you'll probably want to put your opponent on one of the following hands.

Kx - possible, but with 2 kings on the flop, the probility of that goes down
AA - possible, but you probably would've gotten a re-raise preflop
66 - possible, given his middle position limp/call
JJ or lower pp (other than 66) - possible

of the 4 hands, 66 seems the most likely, with Kx a close 2nd. even if opponent only has 44, then he hit it on the turn. at that point, you're probably dead to only the 2 queens. should be an easy fold when he pushes on the turn.

theben 05-17-2006 09:19 PM

Re: Pocket Queens in Vegas
 
more pf. flop, you = definetly toasted

gol4pro 05-17-2006 09:54 PM

Re: Pocket Queens in Vegas
 
fold the flop if you're going to fold the turn.

AWLurch 05-18-2006 12:54 PM

Re: Pocket Queens in Vegas
 
After a long thought process at the table, and me not knowing my opponent I put him on KJ/Kx or 66 with his play. I mucked my QQ face up and he flipped up Pocket Tens. Oh well.....

Looks like best line would be to check behind on flop and raise turn.

Big_Jim 05-18-2006 02:03 PM

Re: Pocket Queens in Vegas
 
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After a long thought process at the table, and me not knowing my opponent I put him on KJ/Kx or 66 with his play. I mucked my QQ face up and he flipped up Pocket Tens. Oh well.....

Looks like best line would be to check behind on flop and raise turn.

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Just call the turn.

luckychewy 05-18-2006 02:16 PM

Re: Pocket Queens in Vegas
 
What provoked you to call the flop but fold the turn? Were you just calling to see if he shutdown? I think if you call the flop you should commit yourself, it seems like you were calling for a 2 outer and folding otherwise...

AWLurch 05-20-2006 03:59 AM

Re: Pocket Queens in Vegas
 
Was basically calling to see if he shut down yes. In hindsight I shoud have called the turn bet.


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