Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 

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Agree 100%. Besides, I'm sure some people are already mining Stars, and have for some time.

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they are and they sell their info
it's sick pstars is allowing these guys that break the T&C to make $$$$$ selling hand histories

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 

Info, yes.

Knowing EXACTLY what they play with is much different than having reads/'info' on other players.

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 

HOW would seeing a FEW hands at showdown allow someone to detect whether another player was using a "program" to see others hole cards. Detecting a pattern like this takes more information that would be available through your "datamining request".

My vote = NO

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 

in case you missed it, it was the river aggression factor that highlighted a few of the cheating accounts at AP

it was the large pattern of identical stats at FTP that highlighted the bots




datamining helps



players found it, not the site

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 

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Info, yes.

Knowing EXACTLY what they play with is much different than having reads/'info' on other players.

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i know anyway after playing with them enough hands


I'm not talking about seeing everyone's hole cards

just the ones that are shown after the river...like at party and full tilt

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 

The ones that go to showdown and/or are mucked are shown, you mean every single person's hand, whether they folded preflop or not to be shown after the river?

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just the players who show and try to take down the pot

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 

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just the players who show and try to take down the pot

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If you mean
1) players that show
2) players that try to take down the pot
then you seriously aren't drug-free

Basically you want to know who bluffs you and who has a hand when they push you out of the hand. This is not data mining this is semi-cheating.

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 

i agree with MTT2, and i wouldnt even datamine probably. the small hit i would take from a few people having more info on me is worth it if its THAT much harder bots to go unnoticed, or some other form of cheating. and anyways, i think pokertracker stats are highly overrated for reads on a player, and i doubt datamining would really change my winrate all that much

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 

Yeah.

If it goes to SHOWDOWN, the cards are already shown. You just have to go back into hand history to see.

If you want to see for who reraises your river bet, then yea..that's cheating more than data mining.

I still say no, it's a retarded idea.